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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...m-our-schools/

    It's not even 2013 and one potential 2016 candidate has already committed political suicide...
    I don't know why you guys are making light of this comment. There is some truth here. I realize most of you are atheist, but I believe in a higher power. This stuff never happened 50 years ago and it happes all the time now. Most of the people who commit these crimes (young white males), have no moral structure in their lives.Religion provides a moral road map (for most people) and we have lost that with the lack of religion in our public institutions. You can make all the jokes you want (I think it's sad), but you can't deny that religion is lacking in thr people who do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jared81 View Post
    I don't know why you guys are making light of this comment. There is some truth here. I realize most of you are atheist, but I believe in a higher power. This stuff never happened 50 years ago and it happes all the time now. Most of the people who commit these crimes (young white males), have no moral structure in their lives.Religion provides a moral road map (for most people) and we have lost that with the lack of religion in our public institutions. You can make all the jokes you want (I think it's sad), but you can't deny that religion is lacking in thr people who do this.
    Religion in & of it self doesn't make anyone a good/moral person. Atheism in & of it self doesn't make anyone immoral.

    Did those Priests lack religion when they raped all those children?

    The guy who committed these acts has some sort of mental disorder, I don't know that bible camp would've really helped.
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    I dont see why praying or bringing a bible to school is such a bad thing now. When prayers were allowed in school these things never happened back in the day. The Nation is slowly putting God to the side and is slowly rottening with violence. I wont say it correlates, but you didnt hear about these stuff 20 or 30 years ago. Im not to religious, but i do believe in God
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    Quote Originally Posted by CattailsrEdible View Post
    I agree with the governor! No one ever did this sort of thing when I was a kid! Lack of god in schools and violent video games imho!

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    When did you go to school? The 50's?


    • April 25, 1950: Peru, Nebraska Dr. William Nicholas, 48, president of Peru State College and Dr. Paul Maxwell, 56, education department head, were shot to death at their desks by Dr. Barney Baker, 54-year-old psychology professor. Baker was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot at his home on campus.
    • July 22, 1950: New York City, New York A 16-year-old boy was shot in the wrist and abdomen at the Public School 141 dance… during an argument with a former classmate.
    • March 12, 1951: Union Mills, North Carolina Professor W. E. Sweatt, superintendent and teacher at the Alexander school, was shot to death by students Billy Ray Powell, 16, and Hugh Justice, 19. The assailants had been reprimanded by Sweatt, and they waited for him as he locked his office door.
    • June 4, 1951: New York City, New York Carl Arch, a 50-year-old intruder to a girl's gym class, was shot and killed by a police officer, at Manhattan's Central Commercial High School.
    • November 27, 1951: New York City, New York David Brooks, a 15-year-old student, was fatally shot as fellow-pupils looked on in a grade school.
    • April 9, 1952: New York City, New York A 15-year-old boarding-school student shot a dean rather than relinquish pin-up pictures of girls in bathing suits.
    • July 14, 1952: New York City, New York Bayard Peakes walked in to the offices of the American Physical Society at Columbia University and shot and killed secretary Eileen Fahey with a .22 caliber pistol. Peakes was reportedly upset that the APS had rejected a pamphlet he had written.
    • September 3, 1952: in Lawrenceville, Illinois After 25-year-old Georgine Lyon ended her engagement with Charles Petrach, Petrach shot and killed Lyon in a classroom at Lawrenceville High School where she worked as a librarian.
    • November 20, 1952: New York City, New York “Rear Admiral E. E. Herrmann, 56 years old, superintendent of the Naval Postgraduate School, was found dead in his office with a bullet in his head. A service revolver was found by his side.
    • October 2, 1953: Chicago, Illinois 14-year-old Patrick Colletta was shot to death by 14-year-old Bernice Turner in a classroom of Kelly High School in Chicago. It was reported that after Turner refused to date Colletta he handed her the gun and dared her to pull the trigger, telling her that the gun was “only a toy.” A coroner’s jury later ruled that the shooting was an accident.
    • October 8, 1953: New York City, New York Larry Licitra, 17-year-old student at the Machine and Metal Trades High School, was shot and slightly wounded in the right shoulder in the lobby of the school while inspecting a handmade pistol owned by one of several students.
    • May 15, 1954: Chapel Hill, North Carolina, Putnam Davis Jr. was shot and killed during a fraternity house carnival at the Phi Delta Theta house at the University of North Carolina. William Joyner and Allen Long were shot and wounded during the exchange of gunfire in their fraternity bedroom. The incident took place after an all-night beer party. Mr. Long reported to the police that, while the three were drinking beer at 7 a.m., Davis pulled out a gun and started shooting with a gun he had obtained from the car of a former roommate.
    • January 11, 1955: Swarthmore, Pennsylvania After some of his dorm mates urinated on his mattress Bob Bechtel, a 20-year-old student at Swarthmore College, returned to his dorm with a shotgun and used it to shoot and kill fellow student Holmes Strozier.
    • May 4, 1956: in Prince George's County, Maryland, 15-year-old student Billy Prevatte fatally shot one teacher and injured two others at Maryland Park Junior High School in Prince George's County after he had been reprimanded from the school.
    • October 20, 1956: New York City, New York A junior high school student was wounded in the forearm yesterday by another student armed with a home-made weapon at Booker T. Washington Junior High School.
    • October 2, 1957: New York City, New York “A 16-year old student was shot in the leg yesterday by a 15-year old classmate at a city high school.”
    • March 4, 1958: New York City, New York “A 17-year-old student shot a boy in the Manual Training High School.”
    • May 1, 1958: Massapequa, New York A 15-year-old high school freshman was shot and killed by a classmate in a washroom of the Massapequa High School.
    • September 24, 1959: New York City, New York Twenty-seven men and boys and an arsenal were seized in the Bronx as the police headed off a gang war resulting from the fatal shooting of a teenager Monday at Morris High School.


    The 60's?


    • February 2, 1960: Hartford City, Indiana Principal Leonard Redden shot and killed two teachers with a shotgun at William Reed Elementary School in Hartford City, Indiana, before fleeing into a remote forest, where he committed suicide.
    • March 30, 1960 Alice, Texas Donna Dvorak, 14, brought a .22 target pistol to Dubose Junior High School, and fatally shot Bobby Whitford, 15, in their 9th grade science class. Dvorak believed Whitford posed a threat to one of her girlfriends.
    • June 7, 1960: Blaine, Minnesota Lester Betts, a 40-year-old mail-carrier, walked into the office of 33-year-old principal Carson Hammond and shot him to death with a 12-gauge shotgun.
    • January 4, 1961: Delmont, South Dakota Donald Kurtz, 17-year-old senior at Delmont High School, was fatally wounded by a .22 caliber bullet from a rifle. The shot, intended as a sound effect for a school play, hit him in the chest during a rehearsal just minutes before the play was to take place.
    • October 17, 1961: Denver, Colorado Tennyson Beard, 14, got into an argument with William Hachmeister, 15, at Morey Junior High School. During the argument Beard pulled out a .38 caliber revolver and shot at Hachmeister, wounding him. A stray bullet also struck Deborah Faith Humphrey, 14, who died from her gunshot wound.
    • August 1, 1966: University of Texas Massacre Charles Whitman age 25, climbed atop the observation deck at the University of Texas-Austin, and killed 16 people and wounded 31 during a 96-minute shooting rampage.
    • November 12, 1966: Mesa, Arizona Bob Smith, 18, took seven people hostage at Rose-Mar College of Beauty, a school for training beauticians. Smith ordered the hostages to lie down on the floor in a circle. He then proceeded to shoot them in the head with a 22-caliber pistol. Four women and a three-year-old girl died, one woman and a baby were injured but survived. Police arrested Smith after the massacre. Smith had reportedly admired Richard Speck and Charles Whitman.
    • January 30, 1968: Miami, Florida 16-year-old Blanche Ward shot and killed fellow student Linda Lipscomb, 16, with a .22-caliber pistol at Miami Jackson High School. According to Ward, she was threatened with a razor by Lipscomb during an argument over a fountain pen, and in the ensuing struggle the gun went off.
    • February 8, 1968: Orangeburg, South Carolina In the days leading up to February 8, 1968, about 200 mostly student protesters gathered on the campus of South Carolina State University, located in the city of Orangeburg, to protest the segregation of the All Star Bowling Lane. The bowling alley was owned by the late Harry K. Floyd. That night, students started a bonfire. As police attempted to put out the fire, an officer was injured by a thrown piece of banister. The police said they believed they were under attack by small weapons fire. The officers fired into the crowd, killing three young men: Samuel Hammond, Delano Middleton, and Henry Smith, and wounding twenty-seven others.
    • May 22, 1968: Miami, Florida Ernest Lee Grissom, a 15-year-old student at Drew Junior High School, shot and seriously wounded a teacher and a 13-year-old student after he had been reprimanded for causing a disturbance.
    • January 17, 1969: Los Angeles, California Two student members of the Black Panther Party, Alprentice Carter and John Huggins, were fatally shot during a student meeting inside Campbell Hall at the University of California, Los Angeles. The motive of the shooting regarded who would own the school's African American Studies Center. The shooter, Claude Hubert, was never to be found but three other men were arrested in connection with the shooting.
    • November 19, 1969: Tomah, Wisconsin Principal Martin Mogensen was shot to death in his office by a 14-year-old boy armed with a 20 gauge shotgun.


    The 70's maybe?

    The two most notable U.S. school shootings in the early 1970s were the Jackson State killings in May 1970, where police opened fire on the campus of Jackson State University and the Kent State shootings also in May 1970 where the National Guard opened fire on the campus of Kent State University.
    The mid to late 1970s is considered the second most violent period in U.S. school history with a series of school shootings, most notably were;

    • December 30, 1974: Olean, New York, Anthony Barbaro, a 17-year-old Regents scholar armed with a rifle and shotgun, kills three adults and wounds 11 others at his high school, which was closed for the Christmas holiday. Barbaro was reportedly a loner who kept a diary describing several "battle plans" for his attack on the school.[14]


    • Thursday February 12, 1976: At Detroit, Michigan's Murray-Wright High School, about six intruders, who according to police looked like junior high students or younger, entered Murray Wright. According to the police they were searching for a student who had "stolen one of their girlfriends."[15] Two teachers discovered the intruders and asked them to leave. A security guard escorted the intruders down a hallway as about six Murray-Wright students followed the intruders as they were leaving. Outside of the door to the school, two of the intruders brandished guns and fired into the group., shooting and injuring five students. One of the injured was treated and released and the others were treated at Henry Ford Hospital.[15]




    • February 22, 1978: Lansing, Michigan After being taunted for his beliefs, a 15-year-old self-proclaimed Nazi, kills one student and wounds a second with a Luger pistol.[14]



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    Quote Originally Posted by Abhenne7 View Post
    I dont see why praying or bringing a bible to school is such a bad thing now. When prayers were allowed in school these things never happened back in the day. The Nation is slowly putting God to the side and is slowly rottening with violence. I wont say it correlates, but you didnt hear about these stuff 20 or 30 years ago
    Religion has been one of the top excuses for violence in human history. Most religions teach that theirs is the only way and to convert non-believers. "Convert" is usually translated as "destroy".

    You might not have heard about shootings 20 years ago, but its not because it never happened. This myth that violence is new is simply that: a myth.

    The concept of America shoving God aside is especially laughable. A Catholic couldnt get elected President until JFK held a announcement assuring voters he wouldnt take directions from the Pope. Many Catholics were still frightened of a Catholic President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob19 View Post
    Religion in & of it self doesn't make anyone a good/moral person. Atheism in & of it self doesn't make anyone immoral.

    Did those Priests lack religion when they raped all those children?

    The guy who committed these acts has some sort of mental disorder, I don't know that bible camp would've really helped.
    Can we both agree that these crimes didn't happen when our parents were children? Please explain your reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jared81 View Post
    Can we both agree that these crimes didn't happen when our parents were children? Please explain your reasoning.
    Gonzo beat ya to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jared81 View Post
    I don't know why you guys are making light of this comment. There is some truth here. I realize most of you are atheist, but I believe in a higher power. This stuff never happened 50 years ago and it happes all the time now.
    Charles Whitman killed 15 people from a tower at the University of Texas in 1966. Andrew Kehoe bombed a Michigan elementary school in 1927, killing 38 children, as well as teachers, other adults and himself. We've had plenty of these rampage killers throughout the years. These were the first two I found who had attacked schools, a search which took all of five seconds.

    Both men were Roman Catholics, by the way. Which brings me to this Failboat:

    Most of the people who commit these crimes (young white males), have no moral structure in their lives.Religion provides a moral road map (for most people) and we have lost that with the lack of religion in our public institutions. You can make all the jokes you want (I think it's sad), but you can't deny that religion is lacking in thr people who do this.
    The only joke here is this post.

    The last thing the world's angry young men needs is religion. Or haven't you been watching the news for the past decade? Or read a history book ever? Not to many terrorists out there reading from Karl Marx before they strap bombs to their chests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spesh View Post
    Gonzo beat ya to it.
    Yes. He proved my point, less than 40 people killed I'm 30 years. People killed in the Co mad CT murders, 39. Thank you for proving my point!
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