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    Risk Vs. Reward

    So everyone likes to talk about why Ireland should be fired and why he should be kept.

    Lets make it simple..a list of Risk vs. Reward in keeping him for 1 year.

    Risk:

    1) In 5 years he hasn't drafted more than 1-2 Pro Bowl players.
    2) He hasn't found more than 3 players that deserve a contract outside of their rookie contract.
    3) he has gone 0-9 in this FA
    4) He has wasted money on players like Wilson, Incognito, Carey, Grove, Marshall (CB), Green, etc.
    5) He hasn't found any WR in 5 years.
    6) He uses UDFA to find a number 1 and 2 WR for his team.
    7) He hasn't improved the roster at all this year.
    8) RT17 was Phils and Shermans call not his.
    9) He was about ot pay Orton 9 mill a year until Ross said he isn't af ranchise QB i won't pay that much money for him.
    10) He trades back and players to accumulate picks and in turn drafts busts.
    11) Drafts the likes of White, Turner, Davis, Odrik, Misi, Nailborne, Gates, Egnew, Thomas, Jerry etc over players that have performed on TAPE.
    12) He can potentially waste 5 picks in the first 3 rounds if given another chance to continue what he has done repeatedly, which is draft busts.
    13) He can waste 40 mill in cap space.
    14) He can guarantee he gets fired next year if he continues evaluating the way he does becaue we will definitely have al osing record next year especially with the teams we are about to play.
    15) He continues to ruin the face of htis franchise
    16) Players continue to speak badly of him, organization takes hits continuously even with retired players speaking out.

    Reward:

    1) Guarantees he gets fired if he stays
    2) I can't think of 1 positve in keeping him as opposed to firing him because even if we get a new guy, can he honestly be worse than Ireland? Ireland has NOT hit on any FA or draft picks so whats the difference?
    3) Reward would be hiring someone knew and hoping he does better as opposed to Irelands 5 year track record of failing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SR 7 View Post
    So everyone likes to talk about why Ireland should be fired and why he should be kept.

    Lets make it simple..a list of Risk vs. Reward in keeping him for 1 year.

    Risk:

    1) In 5 years he hasn't drafted more than 1-2 Pro Bowl players.
    2) He hasn't found more than 3 players that deserve a contract outside of their rookie contract.
    3) he has gone 0-9 in this FA
    4) He has wasted money on players like Wilson, Incognito, Carey, Grove, Marshall (CB), Green, etc.
    5) He hasn't found any WR in 5 years.
    6) He uses UDFA to find a number 1 and 2 WR for his team.
    7) He hasn't improved the roster at all this year.
    8) RT17 was Phils and Shermans call not his.
    9) He was about ot pay Orton 9 mill a year until Ross said he isn't af ranchise QB i won't pay that much money for him.
    10) He trades back and players to accumulate picks and in turn drafts busts.
    11) Drafts the likes of White, Turner, Davis, Odrik, Misi, Nailborne, Gates, Egnew, Thomas, Jerry etc over players that have performed on TAPE.
    12) He can potentially waste 5 picks in the first 3 rounds if given another chance to continue what he has done repeatedly, which is draft busts.
    13) He can waste 40 mill in cap space.
    14) He can guarantee he gets fired next year if he continues evaluating the way he does becaue we will definitely have al osing record next year especially with the teams we are about to play.
    15) He continues to ruin the face of htis franchise
    16) Players continue to speak badly of him, organization takes hits continuously even with retired players speaking out.

    Reward:

    1) Guarantees he gets fired if he stays
    2) I can't think of 1 positve in keeping him as opposed to firing him because even if we get a new guy, can he honestly be worse than Ireland? Ireland has NOT hit on any FA or draft picks so whats the difference?
    3) Reward would be hiring someone knew and hoping he does better as opposed to Irelands 5 year track record of failing.
    wow way to put all the bad things on him and not even give him any credit for tannehill or even cam wake. im not a huge fan of ireland but give him some credit for bringing in a few guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by zach8111 View Post
    wow way to put all the bad things on him and not even give him any credit for tannehill. im not a huge fan of ireland but give him some credit for bringing in a few guys
    Okay, sure. So who did he bring in exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SR 7 View Post
    Okay, sure. So who did he bring in exactly?
    im not saying he should return because he should have gotten us more playmakers but if you are gonna put ALL the bad on him then do give him credit for the few he got right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zach8111 View Post
    im not saying he should return because he should have gotten us more playmakers but if you are gonna put ALL the bad on him then do give him credit for the few he got right...
    What did he get right then? You are more then welcome to name those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SR 7 View Post
    What did he get right then? You are more then welcome to name those.
    draft hits: Pouncy, Long (still a 3 time pro bowler even though a down year), Bess, Smith, Tannehill
    FA hits: Wake, Dansby, Starks, Bush (trade)

    Granted he did miss on a lot of picks and FA but did get some right
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    Miami is a good WR and a few missed FGs away from winning 10-11 games with a rookie QB this season. I think Ireland deserves a little more credit.
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    Tannehill 17
    Not to mention a good bit of negotiating with soliai, drafting jon martin.
    Reshad jones, olivier vernon, more than likely lamar miller.

    Everybody loves to blow a load down their leg over matt moore, who brought him in?
    Make as many lists ad youd like, ireland isnt going anywhere.
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    I like your thought process of risk vs. reward. While I do not think everything is on Ireland, I think the reward factor would potentially be better by parting ways with Ireland and promoting Briane Gaines. Ireland is a known commodity and look where we are at. I do agree the Tannehill selection was Philbin and Shermans (thank God).
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    Jones is the best player he has drafted since Long. But he was a late round pick on his own he came up. JI has busted on everyone else.
    Martin at this isn't anything near special neither is vernon, again, another "playmaker with no speed or acceleration." He simply has NO CLUE what a 40 yard dash is or the 10.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2413fanphins View Post
    Not to mention a good bit of negotiating with soliai, drafting jon martin.
    Reshad jones, olivier vernon, more than likely lamar miller.

    Everybody loves to blow a load down their leg over matt moore, who brought him in?
    Make as many lists ad youd like, ireland isnt going anywhere.
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