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    Quote Originally Posted by dolpns13 View Post
    So it is OK to spend 44M in salaries for 1 division title followed by three consecutive losing seasons and counting? Had that money been well spent, 75% of the players we signed with it would still be productive member of the team. No doubt that 44M was completely wasted, hopefully Ireland doesnt waste it this time around.
    I'm so sick of hearing about Ireland wasting money/picks. Is he the best GM in the league? Not by a long shot, but he had TONY SPARANO and his INEPT staff developing these players. Putting these players in a failed game plan from the beginning. Now we have a new HC, that seems to know what what the **** he wants, and what to do with the players when he gets them. No wonder our last draft was Irelands best? I know this is a hard concept for some to grasp here..

    People get offended when I "brush over" Irelands past years like they don't count. Well that's because they don't! When Ireland was rehired his tenure here started over and thus his track record with the Fins. After what I've seen from Sparano, with his time in Miami and the utter embarrassment of an offense he fielded in NY, I'm convinced that NO GM in the league would have succeeded with this guy at HC. Not one..
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    If the cap is actually 121m as reported in another thread, that's another 5 mil baby! We better not f**k this up this year. As JI said, I got picks and money. Go Dolphins even with our "new" tail up logo lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nublar7 View Post
    Thankfully that guy, Parcells, isn't here anymore.
    Who gave Parcells his intelligence to make decisions? Someone brought the old man the information to make decisions.

    The guy that brought the old man Patrick Turner also selected Michael Egnew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Tatious View Post
    Who gave Parcells his intelligence to make decisions? Someone brought the old man the information to make decisions.

    The guy that brought the old man Patrick Turner also selected Michael Egnew.
    This thread is about free agency, not the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nublar7 View Post
    This thread is about free agency, not the draft.
    So, the general manager wasn't part of the intelligentsia that selected the likes of Ernie Wilford? Parcells didn't rely on his personnel department, headed by the GM, to make his dubious selections? It's a canard to simply blame Parcells for Gibril Wilson and Ernie Wilford. The proof is in the pudding, and the free agency mess after the old man left follows the same pattern as when the old man was here. As an example, suspiciously, long after the old man was gone, the GM selected Legedu Naanee as his big WR acquisition in free agency. And the identification of Naanee seems to fit the same style as Ernie Wilford.

    Connect the dots, and you see a pattern of talent identification. Free agency or the draft, it doesn't matter. The point is that the current GM was the same GM 5 years ago. Whether the old man made the final decision or not, he made it based on input/intelligence/data/recommendations/strategy from his personnel department, headed by the GM. Free agency in '12 was as bad as ever. At least the old man found Starks. The '12 free agency class was an utter disaster which proves the point.

    So, firstly, you can find the common thread even after the old man was long gone. Naanee. Wilford. Nalbone. Egnew. Turner. You can see that the current GM has been involved in a certain trend of players he likes. And it hasn't worked.

    Secondly, he is constantly taking one step forward and then two steps back. Come March, in a 12 month period, he will have lost Long, Marshall, Merling, Davis, and Langford. That's two number one picks (including the first overall), three number two's, and a number three that he recklessly squandered. From the last 5 drafts. 6 day one and day two picks did not end up in the build for the future. That's poor management. We need to build up a program where the talent synergistically gets combined. Not the clustermess this constantly is.

    I am not 100% against Ireland. He passed on some bad qb's which was to his credit for staying the course. He has been mentored poorly. But I don't like his apparent blaming of the old man or the old idiot coach, or blaming the current coach for Egnew. The fact is that he has been the GM for the past 5 years. He has been part of the talent identification team, so he's been part of the problem. He can't cowardly hide from the colossal mistakes when he was in the room when they were made. If he sits there blindly like some fans do, then he will F up this most critical offseason. He needs to understand that his analysis has not been right and needs corrective action.
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    Like him or not we will STILL have to deal with his decisions....for now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by finfan54 View Post
    they live in the past. its all they got.
    Ok fine. Look at his most recent free agency class. 2012, not the past. Train wreck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finfan54 View Post
    they live in the past. its all they got.

    We as dolphin fans the past is all we got. I mean how many fans from teams have to live in 1972 to have something to brag about,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Tatious View Post
    So, the general manager wasn't part of the intelligentsia that selected the likes of Ernie Wilford? Parcells didn't rely on his personnel department, headed by the GM, to make his dubious selections? It's a canard to simply blame Parcells for Gibril Wilson and Ernie Wilford. The proof is in the pudding, and the free agency mess after the old man left follows the same pattern as when the old man was here. As an example, suspiciously, long after the old man was gone, the GM selected Legedu Naanee as his big WR acquisition in free agency. And the identification of Naanee seems to fit the same style as Ernie Wilford.

    Connect the dots, and you see a pattern of talent identification. Free agency or the draft, it doesn't matter. The point is that the current GM was the same GM 5 years ago. Whether the old man made the final decision or not, he made it based on input/intelligence/data/recommendations/strategy from his personnel department, headed by the GM. Free agency in '12 was as bad as ever. At least the old man found Starks. The '12 free agency class was an utter disaster which proves the point.

    So, firstly, you can find the common thread even after the old man was long gone. Naanee. Wilford. Nalbone. Egnew. Turner. You can see that the current GM has been involved in a certain trend of players he likes. And it hasn't worked.

    Secondly, he is constantly taking one step forward and then two steps back. Come March, in a 12 month period, he will have lost Long, Marshall, Merling, Davis, and Langford. That's two number one picks (including the first overall), three number two's, and a number three that he recklessly squandered. From the last 5 drafts. 6 day one and day two picks did not end up in the build for the future. That's poor management. We need to build up a program where the talent synergistically gets combined. Not the clustermess this constantly is.

    I am not 100% against Ireland. He passed on some bad qb's which was to his credit for staying the course. He has been mentored poorly. But I don't like his apparent blaming of the old man or the old idiot coach, or blaming the current coach for Egnew. The fact is that he has been the GM for the past 5 years. He has been part of the talent identification team, so he's been part of the problem. He can't cowardly hide from the colossal mistakes when he was in the room when they were made. If he sits there blindly like some fans do, then he will F up this most critical offseason. He needs to understand that his analysis has not been right and needs corrective action.

    He was just collecting a check those years, Im sure Parcells did all the talent evaluation and made these choices blind lol.
    Lets also his ignore this seasons awful free agency and the Manning debacle where he wouldnt even talk to Miami until marino had to step in but who knows lets risk even more of the future of the franchise on the gm that has built a team that has 4 straight non winning seasons. amazing how 5 years ago Atlanta and us were considered in shambles but their GM had the vision to make them one of the best teams in the league(yea bring up they havent won a playoff game but continually winning home field advantage damn sure will set them up to win some playoff games). That was a franchise that hadnt had a winning season in 3 years were coming off a horrible year now are onto their 5th straight winning season and 4th playoff appearence. That franchise for good or bad has a vision and continually try to improve their team.
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