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as a counter point..
Originally Posted by Hayden Fox
1.Despite 5 winning seasons, he backed into the playoffs a lot and a lot of Packer fans feel he underachieved. Bret Favre still somewhat in his prime with a good OL and Ahman Green and Donald Driver in their prime. And his last year was a disaster... oh and it was what? 2005.
2.Actually fifth behind Lambeau, Lombardi, Holmgren, and McCarthy. He does however, have the worst playoff record of Packer head coaches that have been to the playoffs more than twice (Dan Devine lost his only playoff game and Bart Starr was 1 and 1)
3.Really? Only QB he coached in college currently on an NFL roster is Ryan Tannehill. He didn't really develop Favre.
4.He was a HORRIBLE GM. Absolutely horrible. No denying that.
5. What does that have to do with anything? In recent years Oklahoma State has had Russell Okung, Dez Bryant, Justin Blackmon, and Brandon Weeden go in the first round. Do you want Mike Gundy has a head coach in the NFL?
I get you like Sherman Hayden, and that's fine. I understand and acknowledge some of his playcalling was limited by the lack of talent we had on offense... but answer me these questions.
1.Why Did we not involve Reggie Bush in the passing game more?
2.Why did we rely on Davone Bess as a deep threat when he's by far our slowest WR
3.Why did we not use Charles Clay more as a mismatch until the second half of the season
4.Why did we not involve Lamar Miller more on offense?
5.Why did we abandon the run so much?
6.Why did we not use Tannehill's athleticism until the last couple games? I understand Tanny got hurt in the 2nd Jets game... but guess what? That was our 6th or 7th game this season.
His play calling was inconsistent. It is a fair comment to make.
And his A&M record speaks against him. Before the year I would have said that the Aggie boosters had unrealistic expectations... until Sumlin came in. And yes... they were players Sherman recruited, but it was a completely different system. Under Sherman, the Aggies lost pretty much any big game they played in.
Now let me be perfectly clear before anybody complains about my post or misinterprets what my position is.
1.I think having Sherman as the OC will be a strength but losing him will not cripple the development of Ryan Tannehill. We run a West Coast Offense, which Tanny knew quite a bit of. It's not like Joe Philbin wasn't a good OC during his time with the Packers and it's not like we'd be changing what style of offense we run.
2.Based on the results from 2005 to 2012, I do not see any reason why Mike Sherman would be seriously considered for an NFL head coaching job. He is a quality assistant, yes. But any team that hires Sherman now would be the equivalent of hiring Dick Juron to be the head coach of your football team (and Dick is a good DC)
Liking Sherman is easy to back, not liking him is easy to back, but to act like he is God's Gift to the Miami Dolphins is flat out wrong.