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View Poll Results: Do you trust Ireland with the 2013 season?

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Thread: Poll: Do you trust Ireland with our 2013 season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by srdnaty View Post
    What big name free agents have we signed that were bad decisions?

    I've attached a pdf with just a quick glance at the 2012 opening day roster and if it was a good or bad call.
    Are there even any FA signees left on the team?
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    His eye for talent at the WR and TE position is concerning. With that being one of our biggest needs, I just feel that he is going to screw it up somehow. I hope Philbin is more of an influence on draft day decisions, he seems to know what he wants.


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    I'm happy to give him this off season to finally make my judgement on him. The past draft was the best one we have had in 15-30 years, and it is his first year with a proper head coach so I'm intrigued to find out how he gets on this off season. Having said that if he flops I think it is time to get a new GM, I can't see the fans accepting many more losing seasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlockz View Post
    So Justin Smiley 5 years 25 million, Jake Grove 30 something miillion , gibril Wilson another 30 something million. wilford 13 million 3 rec 25 million. Reggie Torbor. Vernon Carey 6 years 42 million. Traded 2 seconds and a 50 million dollar contract to Brandon Marshall for a 2 year rental. Dansby 5 years 43 million( I like Dansby as a player but he is overpaid) Most of these were when the dolphins had alot of salary cap space, the last two years have been limited because some of these players only made it a couple of years into contract. He blew his was early in his time here as gm and used up alot of cap space on guys that did not pan out.

    As for number one picks , I would say he hasnt totally missed as of yet on his first pick but juries still out on Odrick, Tannehill and Davis(although u trade a pick two years later and thats a failure to some degree unless u get great value) But lets look back.

    2008 Chose Jake Long number one overall. Now 5 years later questions whether he is worth resigning and if he leaves will leave the cupboard bare from the 2008 draft. 5 years later and not one player remaining, huge misses on Henne, Merling and Murphy.

    2009 Vernon Davis with Clay Matthews, Eric Wood, Hakeem Nicks, James Laurentis and Rey Malueaga still on board not to mention when he drafted Pat white , Max Unger , Jarius Byrd, Conner Barwin and Leeshan Mccoy still on board.. 2 years later traded for a late second so not exactly a success.
    Pat White one of worst dolphin draft picks of all time, Sean Smith solid player, Patrick turner horrible pick, Hartline great pick and joh Nalbone ugh. Clemons was a solid late pick the rest garbage but what u expect in 7th round.

    2010 Traded 2 seconds for marshall. Traded down from 12 with pro bowlers Jean pierre paul, Mike Lupati, Maurice pouncey , Earl thomas and jermaine Gresham still on board. Dez Bryant was also there along with Demarious Thomas. Took Koa Misi second round solid player but Gronkowski pro bowl TE was there. john Jerry 3rd round has been up and down, local product Jimmy Graham was there as well as Aaron Hernadez. The took total bust AJ edds Geno Atkins two time probowler was very next pick %th round Nolan Carrol nothing special, reshard Jones great pick

    2011 Mike Pouncey great pick questionable drafting a center that high, if we had did better in previous drafts have been some nice c prospects we passed on like Max Unger. Traded up for some reason to get Danial Thomas. Demarco Murray and Steven Ridley both still on board as well as Ryan Mallet( who knows what he will be). Took total bust Gates in 4th over Cecil shorts 55 rec 979 yards 7 tds. Not to mention we could have waited on Kendell Hunter. Denarious moore was still on board also as well as Jeremy Kerley. Took Clay next who knows he is invisible many games but has potential and thats all u can ask with a sixth rounder.

    So overall no would not considere him an above average drafter.
    Your saying he's below average, but every other GM in the league passed on these pro-bowlers, so what does that tell you? If other other GM passed on these guys, it should tell you that no one could tell they would be as good as they are. This is revisionist history. This isn't madden. You would be a great GM if you had a crystal ball, but so would everyone else. Smiley and Grove had large contracts but not a lot guaranteed. They were not big mistakes. They were upgrades at the time, and yes they didnt work out. Face the fact that you would find something to bitch about if we were the #1 seed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retarmyfinfan View Post
    Are there even any FA signees left on the team?
    I hope this is sarcasm
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    I have no problem saying that anyone who voted 'yes' in this poll is clearly blind, delusional, or simply high as a ****ing kite.* Look at his draft record, look at his record in free agency, look at the lack of Pro Bowl players on the roster, look at the pitiful offensive showing, look at the team's complete inability to compete with top tier teams.


    * I will also accept the excuse that you clicked on the wrong option by accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlockz View Post
    The point is we have had needs and neglected these positions in draft. we could have drafted many a good Te prospect but we drfated egnew, passed on other centers then drafted Pouncey way high.
    Same with rb and receiver.
    And now we have the best young center in the AFC, maybe the NFL as a whole. In your other post you say we need to wait and see on Tannehill, so why don't we need to wait and see on Egnew? I do think is was a bad pick, but I'm just pointing out how your manipulating facts to suit your case.
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    This is to the mods. Can we please start a sticky thread on draft day? I want all of you brilliant GM's on this board tell me who we should have picked and when. That why you may finally realize why you are working at burger king instead of in the front office of an NFL team.
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    I think it's a lot more likely that the people who embrace Jeff's ****ty performance are the ones who underachieve in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srdnaty View Post
    Your saying he's below average, but every other GM in the league passed on these pro-bowlers, so what does that tell you? If other other GM passed on these guys, it should tell you that no one could tell they would be as good as they are. This is revisionist history. This isn't madden. You would be a great GM if you had a crystal ball, but so would everyone else. Smiley and Grove had large contracts but not a lot guaranteed. They were not big mistakes. They were upgrades at the time, and yes they didnt work out. Face the fact that you would find something to bitch about if we were the #1 seed.

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    I hope this is sarcasm

    Hmmm why do u bring up Madden crap. Just saying there were better players on board at positions of need when we drafted. i questioned many of these picks as they happened not 3 years later.
    Just comparing his picks to guys we needed and how they turned out. As for Grove hate to tell u half of his contract was guaranteed so u might want to check your facts. over a third of Smiley's contract was guaranteed. So Jake Grove gone in 2 years and Smiley gone in two were not mistakes. What does Ireland have to do for u to even imply he made a mistake. We needed a TE for a while and passed on much better prospects than Egnew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srdnaty View Post
    Your saying he's below average, but every other GM in the league passed on these pro-bowlers, so what does that tell you? If other other GM passed on these guys, it should tell you that no one could tell they would be as good as they are. This is revisionist history. This isn't madden. You would be a great GM if you had a crystal ball, but so would everyone else.Smiley and Grove had large contracts but not a lot guaranteed. They were not big mistakes. They were upgrades at the time, and yes they didnt work out. Face the fact that you would find something to bitch about if we were the #1 seed.
    So 2 wrongs make a right? Its totally acceptable for Ireland to pass on good players because, hey, other GM's did also. By the way, some of those other general managers have or are being fired for their mistakes.

    Wont even get into how laughable it is to excuse Ireland for giving out +$20 million guaranteed to 2 oft-injured players. Let me guess, Ireland was shrewd for "only" giving Marc Colombo $2 million?
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