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    Matt Elam, HoneyBadger, or other DB in 2nd

    Matt Elam would be a perfect fit for Miami. Reshad and Him would be a talented Safety combination. Elam can play both positions and even spot up CB. He's a ball hawk and tackles well, him and Jones would be a young hard hitting combo for years to come.
    How do you guys feel with taking this guy in early 2nd
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    the HoneyBadger.

    I know the kid likes to smoke pot but what other 18-22 y/o college student doesnt? Give him a chance under proper leadership, enforce rules, I'm sure he will pan out. LOOK AT JENORIS JENKINS! I was praying we'd take a chance on him. He was a guaranteed 1st round pick if it wasnt for his "off the field issues" (marijuana)

    People do not realize that these are kids and will make mistakes. Granted it will cost them a round in the draft, but under proper coaching, which the dolphins appear to have, He could and WILL flourish.
    It's time to take a chance in this draft. Go for the IMPACT players that can be molded into proper Vets.


    Damn this offseason just has my mind going...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcsupratt View Post
    Matt Elam would be a perfect fit for Miami. Reshad and Him would be a talented Safety combination. Elam can play both positions and even spot up CB. He's a ball hawk and tackles well, him and Jones would be a young hard hitting combo for years to come.
    How do you guys feel with taking this guy in early 2nd
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    the HoneyBadger.

    I know the kid likes to smoke pot but what other 18-22 y/o college student doesnt? Give him a chance under proper leadership, enforce rules, I'm sure he will pan out. LOOK AT JENORIS JENKINS! I was praying we'd take a chance on him. He was a guaranteed 1st round pick if it wasnt for his "off the field issues" (marijuana)

    People do not realize that these are kids and will make mistakes. Granted it will cost them a round in the draft, but under proper coaching, which the dolphins appear to have, He could and WILL flourish.
    It's time to take a chance in this draft. Go for the IMPACT players that can be molded into proper Vets.


    Damn this offseason just has my mind going...
    Tyrann Mathieu is vastly over-rated. After a year off, smoking more than just "a little" weed, only being 5-9, poor technique etc. makes using a 2nd round pick on him a huge reach/waste. He's a 3rd day flier pick at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Tes View Post
    Tyrann Mathieu is vastly over-rated. After a year off, smoking more than just "a little" weed, only being 5-9, poor technique etc. makes using a 2nd round pick on him a huge reach/waste. He's a 3rd day flier pick at this point.
    I don't care what anyone says, Honeybadger is a stud. His skills are ****ing unreal
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinidadDolfan View Post
    I don't care what anyone says, Honeybadger is a stud. His skills are ****ing unreal
    He is, there's a reason he was in running for the Heisman at one point. If anything he'll be a playmaker for us. Something we NEED!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinidadDolfan View Post
    I don't care what anyone says, Honeybadger is a stud. His skills are ****ing unreal
    forget height forget off the field troubles forget technique... the guy is a FOOTBALL PLAYER... and a damn good one at that... a playmaker... something we really lack and who knows he may fill a few empty seats in Sun Life.... that being said I wouldn't touch him in the second... but I would take him no question in the third or later
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanfin View Post
    forget height forget off the field troubles forget technique... the guy is a FOOTBALL PLAYER... and a damn good one at that... a playmaker... something we really lack and who knows he may fill a few empty seats in Sun Life.... that being said I wouldn't touch him in the second... but I would take him no question in the third or later
    no to honey badger.... off the field problems would be a huge concern... kicked off team... arrested...etc...

    MatT Elam is a stud.... but i think other upgrades are just a higher prority right now... need to go with a true CB
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinidadDolfan View Post
    I don't care what anyone says, Honeybadger is a stud. His skills are f**king unreal
    What skills would those be? He's listed at 5-9 but i'm willing to bet he's even shorter. His weight is in the 175lb range. Watching him play i'd bet his 40 is in the 4.5's. So you have an undersized corner with just average speed. His coverage skills have always been suspect. Wr's get way to much seperation on him, taller receivers easily shield him off and out leap him. He can't play the boundary. He's too small to move to safety and too tight hipped to play corner every down. His best bet is to be used by a team as a 3rd safety where his "skills"(his vision and instincts ) can be utilized

    He does have very good return "skills". I'll give you that too.

    So again, he's overrated, limited, has a serious drug problem making him being picked in the first 2 days a major reach
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcsupratt View Post
    Matt Elam would be a perfect fit for Miami. Reshad and Him would be a talented Safety combination. Elam can play both positions and even spot up CB. He's a ball hawk and tackles well, him and Jones would be a young hard hitting combo for years to come.
    How do you guys feel with taking this guy in early 2nd
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    the HoneyBadger.

    I know the kid likes to smoke pot but what other 18-22 y/o college student doesnt? Give him a chance under proper leadership, enforce rules, I'm sure he will pan out. LOOK AT JENORIS JENKINS! I was praying we'd take a chance on him. He was a guaranteed 1st round pick if it wasnt for his "off the field issues" (marijuana)

    People do not realize that these are kids and will make mistakes. Granted it will cost them a round in the draft, but under proper coaching, which the dolphins appear to have, He could and WILL flourish.
    It's time to take a chance in this draft. Go for the IMPACT players that can be molded into proper Vets.


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    I'm not sure we were watching the same Matt Elam. I didn't think he was especially great in coverage. He looks like a hard hitting SS to me, not a FS or "spot up CB". Plus he's a borderline sociopath. That's all we need is 15 yard PF penalites extending opposing O's drives becauce Elam came smashing through the wash and lays a helmet to helmet hit on some running back.
    Insert pithy saying here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPhinFan View Post
    I'm not sure we were watching the same Matt Elam. I didn't think he was especially great in coverage. He looks like a hard hitting SS to me, not a FS or "spot up CB". Plus he's a borderline sociopath. That's all we need is 15 yard PF penalites extending opposing O's drives becauce Elam came smashing through the wash and lays a helmet to helmet hit on some running back.
    Seems as if you are basing your opinion on Elam on that one late hit non-call last night in the Sugar Bowl
    and considering you're a Louisville fan, I can see where you'd get mad at that. But dont be quick to judge Elam's skillset based on a biased point of view

    Watch more of his tape and not one game and then you'll agree why everyone has him on their board as an elite late 1st/early 2nd round talent
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcsupratt View Post
    Seems as if you are basing your opinion on Elam on that one late hit non-call last night in the Sugar Bowl
    and considering you're a Louisville fan, I can see where you'd get mad at that. But dont be quick to judge Elam's skillset based on a biased point of view

    Watch more of his tape and not one game and then you'll agree why everyone has him on their board as an elite late 1st/early 2nd round talent
    Oh I'm not basing my opinion on just one game. The guy has been doing stuff like that all year. There's video of him body slamming guys out of bounds.

    And I never said he wasn't a 1st or 2nd round pick. I just said I don't think he's a FS or CB at the NFL level. He's a damn fine SS for sure. U of L was trying to get him in man coverage on their WRs. They succeeded once and got him on the boundary against Parker. Unfortunately Parker slipped on his cut and Bridgewater hit the back pylon with his pass. I'm guessing that would have been a touchdown, I'll take Parker in that one on one match up in the endzone against Elam all day long. Now crossing over the middle with Elam running around like a heat seeking missile? Hell no. I'm pretty sure Elam would be covered under the proposed assault weapons ban.
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