Ramses Barden = Legedu Naanee.
Ramses Barden = Legedu Naanee.
"Society became divided into camps in which no man trusted his fellow. To put an end to this, there was neither promise to be depended upon, nor oath that could command respect; but all parties dwelling rather in their calculation upon the hopelessness of a permanent state of things, were more intent upon self-defence than capable of confidence." - Thucydides, probably predicting the rise of internet message boards
I've attended Giants camp in Albany for a few days almost every season for the past decade, although I missed in 2012.
Barden does the work. His attitude is not a question. He puts more energy into the drills than virtually any receiver. The assistant coaches praise him and work with him.
But once the groups join and they begin the scrimmage, he seldom makes a play. Once in a while an intermediate slant opens up perfectly for him and he looks like a giant out there. Otherwise he generally disappears, until the next day's drills.
The idea is to significantly improve our mix. Too many things Barden can't do. I prefer Matthews' skill set above his.
Let's see..... Who has more upside?
A tall, slow 4.68 guy that is in the exact mold of Pat Turner and that never gets open (Barden)? Or a shorter, quick go up and get it type of guy that can get open in the seam (Matthews)??
Am I missing the argument lol
2014 Mock Draft
1. Zack Martin - OT/OG - Notre Dame
2. Chris Borland - ILB - Wisconsin
3. C.J. Fiedeorowicz - TE - Iowa
4. Trai Turner - OG - LSU
5. Brandon Thomas - OT/OG - Clemson
6. Storm Johnson - RB - South Florida
7. Calvin Barnett - DT - Oklahoma State
I think you guys are missing the boat on this. The one thing nobody has mentioned is OPPORTUNITY....you can say he never did anything, or is too slow but he has not gotten the chance to shine as a #1 or 2..... The best he ever got with the giants is as a 4 or 5 option. He has been behind 2 pro bowl wr and a good te and a rb the usually gets 50 rec. Not saying we should throw 100 million at him, but playing with a winner could rub off for a minimum investment.
As far as Mathews, not that he might develop into something, but a 7 rounder lasts that long for a reason and when Colston got his chance he produced because they needed a wr to step up......Matthews didnt step up and we needed help from day 1
It appears a number of members of this board have been stricken with Hogan-Moore Syndrome, which causes them to overrate late-round and undrafted receivers based on a few minor accomplishments. I would like to sincerely apologize in advance for all of you getting your hopes up that Matthews will ever be an integral part of the Dolphins' offense, and the disappointment that is sure to ensue. Looking forward to July when we're doing the same thing with Undrafted Receiver To Be Named.
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Besides, the issue here is not Matthews against a premier prospect or valued free agent. It's Matthews versus Ramses Barden.