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Thread: Could Greg Jennings be this year's Matt Flynn?

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    Could Greg Jennings be this year's Matt Flynn?

    Vincent Jackson signed a reported five-year, $55.6-million contract Tuesday with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They also paid Jackson $36 million in guaranteed payouts the first three years of the deal, including $26 million the first two years. Pierre Garcon agreed to a five-year, $42.5-million deal with the Washington Redskins with $20 million guaranteed. Jennings is better than those guys and you can bet heíll want to be paid accordingly. The question now is, will Miami pay up? Considering the fact that Philbin is a build through the draft guy and thats exactly what Jeff Ireland is becoming. One thing for sure though, Greg Jennings would look to get paid and just like Flynn, it won't matter where.
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    I think the situation with Jennings is different than Matt Flynn. Philbin and Ireland were not sold on Flynn being a franchise quarterback and Flynn only had one successful game to base on giving big bucks to. The Seahawks paid him and once they saw him up close, they stashed him on the bench. Greg Jennings on the other hand is a proven NFL starter who has been successful for years(though has struggled with injuries lately). I really think Ireland wants to add a WR in free agency this year, and I think he will be willing to pay for it. Most likely it will be Jennings, but Wallace and Bowe will probably be considered also.

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    Every single team declares they are building through the draft. The Parcells regime announced that was their goal in '08. Just because Ireland is horrible at it, doesnt mean he was a "build through free agency" guy before Philbin arrived. In 2008 and 2009, we had 4 draft picks in the first 3 rounds. In 2010, we missed out on some great players because we traded back to stockpile picks.

    Also, we have to spend our money.

    The new collective bargaining agreement formulated in 2011 had an initial salary cap of $120 million. While the previous CBA had a salary floor, the new CBA does not have one until 2013; at that time, each team will be required to spend a minimum of 88.8% of the cap in cash on player compensation,[8] and 90% in future years.
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    Joe Philbin does not have time to build through the draft. He needs to expedite his program by bringing in a few FA's.
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    Greg jennings last contract was 3 years 18million, so I wouldnt expect anything more than a 3 year 20-24 million deal this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nublar7 View Post
    I think the situation with Jennings is different than Matt Flynn. Philbin and Ireland were not sold on Flynn being a franchise quarterback and Flynn only had one successful game to base on giving big bucks to. The Seahawks paid him and once they saw him up close, they stashed him on the bench. Greg Jennings on the other hand is a proven NFL starter who has been successful for years(though has struggled with injuries lately). I really think Ireland wants to add a WR in free agency this year, and I think he will be willing to pay for it. Most likely it will be Jennings, but Wallace and Bowe will probably be considered also.
    Joe Philbin doesnít like the perception that the Dolphins didnít aggressively pursue free agent quarterback Matt Flynn.

    Philbin, the Dolphins head coach who spent the last four years coaching Flynn in Green Bay, was asked by a reporter today why he didnít pursue Flynn as aggressively as many people thought they would. And Philbin said people who think the Dolphins didnít pursue Flynn aggressively are wrong.....

    ....Flynnís decision to play for the Seahawks even though the Dolphins made an aggressive push ó and even though Flynn already knows he can play well in Philbinís offense ó would seem to be another indication of the widespread perception that a whole lot of players just donít want to play for the Dolphins right now.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/27/joe-philbin-ask-matt-flynn-why-hes-in-seattle/

    And yes, Seattle only benched Flynn because they didnt like what they saw. I suppose it had nothing to do with that dude who went on to tie Peyton Manning's rookie touchdown record, huh?

    Seahawks identified Wilson as a special player. But they also knew Flynn could be a good quarterback. Instead of playing it safe(such as holding onto Chad Henne in 2011) they got aggressive and loaded up on the most important position in football. And lets not act like Wilson wasnt on the radar for other teams:

    At least three teams, and quite possibly more, planned to draft Wisconsin's Wilson shortly after the Seahawks selected him with the 75th overall pick in the third round of April's draft, according to league sources.

    The Philadelphia Eagles intended to draft Wilson 13 slots after Seattle's pick, at No. 88 overall, to back up Michael Vick but wound up drafting Arizona quarterback Nick Foles instead.The Indianapolis Colts planned to pick Wilson with the 92nd overall selection in the third round to back up Luck before taking Florida International wide receiver T.Y. Hilton.

    And even the Washington Redskins would have grabbed Wilson with the 102nd overall pick in the fourth round to back up Griffin, but when he was gone, they picked Michigan State quarterback Kirk Cousins.
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    Greg Jennings is a proven NFL player. Matt Flynn had one good game against the putrid Detroit Lions defense. Big difference.


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    Re: Could Greg Jennings be this year's Matt Flynn?

    If they had thought highly enough of Flynn they would have paid enough to get him
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrispepper View Post
    Greg jennings last contract was 3 years 18million, so I wouldnt expect anything more than a 3 year 20-24 million deal this time.
    Well that's a good reference point if heis ggiving Green Bay a home town discount or wants a ring. But, to leave title town and the best QB in the biz and a fan base that will idolize him for a lifetime for a rebuilding project on a under-500 team with a 2nd year QB and no other WR's to take away the double team .... that's going to take a LOT more than 8M per year on a 3 year deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spesh View Post
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/27/joe-philbin-ask-matt-flynn-why-hes-in-seattle/

    And yes, Seattle only benched Flynn because they didnt like what they saw. I suppose it had nothing to do with that dude who went on to tie Peyton Manning's rookie touchdown record, huh?

    Seahawks identified Wilson as a special player. But they also knew Flynn could be a good quarterback. Instead of playing it safe(such as holding onto Chad Henne in 2011) they got aggressive and loaded up on the most important position in football. And lets not act like Wilson wasnt on the radar for other teams:



    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/...hefter-10-spot
    Philbin and Ireland wanted Flynn in Miami, no doubt about. If they thought he was a must have franchise quarterback in their mind, they would have offered him more than what they did. I don't think they were ever planning on just handing him the starting job if he signed in Miami, he was going to have to compete. It is very likely in my opinion that Tannehill was still going to be drafted even if Flynn signed. Basically Flynn would have played the veteran competition that Garrard ended up being.

    The Seahawks were ready to take Tannehill at #12 if he fell to them. Pete Carroll was reportedly even "giggling like a school girl" at the idea of of drafting Tannehill. So even after signing Flynn, Seattle was looking to draft a quarterback early in the draft, and the ended up doing so with Wilson. Doesn't seem to me like Seattle was all the sold on him being the long term answer.
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