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Thread: ****Colts @ Ravens / Seahawks @ Redskins Game Thread****

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike13 View Post
    To be fair all we know is that
    1) Ray Lewis gets into a fight
    2) A couple of people got stabbed to death
    3) ???????????????????????????
    4) Profit!

    Supposedly he tried to break the fight up, but if he was involved in the fight itself but didnt stab anyone that at least makes him an accessory to the crime right?
    either way the whole thing is murky.
    And the fact that everyone all of the sudden forgets about this incident because its his last year is just funny to me.

    You have to take the good with the bad, Why cant the analysts just say "Ray Lewis was a great MLB, who may or may not have killed someone."
    Damn straight on the first parts. Even if he tried to break up the fight which is completely questionable, the man was an accessory to murder. We know a group of people he was with got into a fight with other people and 2 men wound up stabbed to death. Afterwards Lewis washed his clothing, plead guilty to obstruction, and paid a boatload of money to the victims families. Those are facts.

    I take nothing away from Lewis' performance on the field. He was outstanding. The guy is one of the great LBs of all time.

    Having said that, I dont expect announcers to, nor do I think announcers should bring up that incident he was involved in. But, it would be nice if they didnt wax poetic 24/7 about what a great person Ray Lewis is. Its just not neccessary. If they would keep it to the fact he is a great player and on the field leader, it wouldnt bother me so much. He has earned praise for those things. But, I can do without everyone talking about how Ray Lewis is this great man. I get sick of seeing cameras in front of him all the time. Almost everyone in prison talks about God all of the time too. Enough already with this myth of Ray Lewis being of great character. ESPN is the worst for it and they even gave him a job. I will not be watching ESPN's coverage when they have this guy on their show as a paid employee.
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    Joyce raised Richard Lollar, who was left dead in the street in the early morning hours on Jan. 31, 2000, a few hours after the Rams defeated the Titans in one of the most thrilling Super Bowls in history. And then came one of the most chilling post-Super Bowl scenes in history. A brawl outside the Cobalt Lounge, an upscale Atlanta nightclub, turned into gory spectacle of steely knives, mangled flesh and a river of blood. The 24-year-old Lollar and his 21-year-old boyhood buddy from Akron, Jacinth Baker, were both stabbed multiple times in the heart, the knives savagely twisted into their vital organs. The killers knew exactly what they were doing.

    Lewis, his two good friends Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting and nine others sped away from the crime scene in a 40-foot Lincoln limousine. Lewis, Oakley and Sweeting were charged with the killings and cleared in a controversial court decision that still leaves many questions unanswered.

    Why, when Lewis made an appearance at a sporting goods store the day before the Super Bowl, did his friends buy knives at the store?

    Why did witnesses say the limo pulled over and someone dumped bloody clothes into a trash bin?

    Why was the white suit Ray Lewis wore that night never found?

    Why did the limo driver change his story mid-trial after originally testifying that Lewis told everyone to "just keep your mouth shut and don't say nothing"? Originally, the driver told police he saw Lewis actively taking part in the bloody brawl and heard Oakley and Sweeting admit to stabbing someone. But he backed off those statements when he got on the witness stand.

    Why did prosecutors reduce the murder charge against Lewis to misdemeanor obstruction of justice? It was a plea deal in which Lewis agreed to testify against his two friends, Oakley and Sweeting, who were later acquitted after Lewis' testimony failed to implicate them in the murders.

    "Why were people changing their stories?" Joyce Lollar asked on the way to the cemetery that day. " The jury didn't know who or what to believe. By lying and deceiving from the beginning Ray Lewis helped set everybody free."
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooshoops View Post
    you couldn't pay me to take either of those qbs on display tonight over tannehill...

    You can't be serious? First off you can't compare what you seen in a regular season game to the playoffs. It's a much different tighter, grind. Teams usually win by making the least mistakes. Secondly, you shouldn't mention Tannehill right now in the same sentence with those two. It's not fair to RT. They aren't putting up rookie numbers, they are ranked up there with the best in the NFL.

    "Both Griffin and Wilson are in the top five in the league with quarterback ratings of 102.4 and 100.0 respectively"

    Both of these guys are very special, future superstars of the NFL. RG3 was banged up, but he'll get healthy in the offseason. I agree the wear and tear is a bit concerning. Wilson is light-years ahead of RT in maturity and field-intelligience right now. You notice how he never turns the ball over? He never forces passes. He does whatever is required to win. The guy eats, sleeps and breathes football, he's just a winner.

    The jury is still very much out on Tannehill. Although there have been a few glimpses, he hasn't proven enough yet.
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    People just hate on RG3 because of the media hype. Newsflash, RG3 is not paying ESPN to do this, ESPN does this themselves. Don't let the media circus cloud your judgment. RG3's talent and athleticism hasn't been seen at the quarterback position in so long. Michael Vick wishes he could be as accurate as this guy throwing the ball. I'd say he's a much faster version of Steve McNair. Which is a franchise caliber quarterback.
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    The problem is that he cant play like he's invincible all the time.
    He will have a short career if he continuues to do so.
    Once Dmac is drafted a Dmac Jersey will spontaneously materialize in the closet of each and every Dolfan...

    ...and not that replica crap either...
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    Quote Originally Posted by phinmanniac View Post
    You can't be serious? First off you can't compare what you seen in a regular season game to the playoffs. It's a much different tighter, grind. Teams usually win by making the least mistakes. Secondly, you shouldn't mention Tannehill right now in the same sentence with those two. It's not fair to RT. They aren't putting up rookie numbers, they are ranked up there with the best in the NFL.

    "Both Griffin and Wilson are in the top five in the league with quarterback ratings of 102.4 and 100.0 respectively"

    Both of these guys are very special, future superstars of the NFL. RG3 was banged up, but he'll get healthy in the offseason. I agree the wear and tear is a bit concerning. Wilson is light-years ahead of RT in maturity and field-intelligience right now. You notice how he never turns the ball over? He never forces passes. He does whatever is required to win. The guy eats, sleeps and breathes football, he's just a winner.

    The jury is still very much out on Tannehill. Although there have been a few glimpses, he hasn't proven enough yet.
    i'm dead serious...i've seen enough of all 3 qbs to say i would take tannehill and his future over either of these qbs hands down...
    hoops scoops 2012 season ..."in 2014 ryan tannehill etches his name in stone amongst the games elite qbs"..."ryan tannehill and andrew luck will carry the afc for the next decade plus the way peyton manning and tom brady have this last decade plus"
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooshoops View Post
    i'm dead serious...i've seen enough of all 3 qbs to say i would take tannehill and his future over either of these qbs hands down...
    I guess to each his own. I'll leave you with this, which is really all that matters. Impact!:

    2011

    Washington: 5-11
    Indianapolis: 2-14
    Seattle: 7-9
    Miami: 6-10


    2012

    Washington: 10-6
    Indianapolis: 11-5
    Seattle: 11-5
    Miami: 7-9

    And don't give me this BS that they all had better tools! Aside from Seattle (with Lynch) our pieces were on par with the other 2 teams. We had a very strong defense and a ridiculously soft schedule. We'll see if you still feel the same way about the quarterbacks after next season when we finish 8-8 (if we're lucky) and miss the playoffs yet again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phinmanniac View Post
    I guess to each his own. I'll leave you with this, which is really all that matters. Impact!:

    2011

    Washington: 5-11
    Indianapolis: 2-14
    Seattle: 7-9
    Miami: 6-10


    2012

    Washington: 10-6
    Indianapolis: 11-5
    Seattle: 11-5
    Miami: 7-9

    And don't give me this BS that they all had better tools! Aside from Seattle (with Lynch) our pieces were on par with the other 2 teams. We had a very strong defense and a ridiculously soft schedule. We'll see if you still feel the same way about the quarterbacks after next season when we finish 8-8 (if we're lucky) and miss the playoffs yet again.
    first off i don't float bs...and when rg3 is done in 5 years cause of all that contact in that o remember i told ya...as for telling me miamis weapons on o were on the same level as every other team minus seattles...lmao...that's crazy talk

    indys got wayne and allen and hilton and fleener off the top of my head...all 4 bigger playmakers than any wr or te we have...washington a lot of that is product of the o generated production but garcon is a bigger play maker by far than anything we have...most those other guys make plays cause of the run threat and defending the read option sucking up the lbs and getting banged off pa etc...different o can't even really compare it to miamis in any way
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    Quote Originally Posted by phinmanniac View Post
    I guess to each his own. I'll leave you with this, which is really all that matters. Impact!:

    2011

    Washington: 5-11
    Indianapolis: 2-14
    Seattle: 7-9
    Miami: 6-10


    2012

    Washington: 10-6
    Indianapolis: 11-5
    Seattle: 11-5
    Miami: 7-9

    And don't give me this BS that they all had better tools! Aside from Seattle (with Lynch) our pieces were on par with the other 2 teams. We had a very strong defense and a ridiculously soft schedule. We'll see if you still feel the same way about the quarterbacks after next season when we finish 8-8 (if we're lucky) and miss the playoffs yet again.

    This isn't the most fair comparison because:

    1. Washington literally had Rex Grossman and John Beck at QB last season.
    2. Indianapolis literally had Curtis ****ing Painter at QB last season.
    3. Seattle had, uhm, Tarvaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst?


    Not one of those guys could sniff Matt Moore's jock strap.

    Never mind that Miami traded away its top WR while Indy resigned its best WR while drafting a young stud, Washington spent big bucks on Pierre Garcon, etc.


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    Thing is with RG3, you take the running part of his game out, and you're left with pretty average QB... And that offense he's running is already taking a toll on his legs... Doesnt bode well...
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