A solid case? The Jets aren't elite. Their lack of Super Bowl appearances and wins the last 44 years is all the proof that is needed.
End of story.
we've already told you.. 4 playoff appearances mean nothing if there's no divisional hardware or superbowl appearances -especially taking into consideration the mediocrity in season and charity as born out by the 24-zip last 31 minutes of the conference championship. You are always the one who speaks about "context." What could be more relevant to context than the team crapping the bed all season, losing to atlanta in a game at home they had to win, beating a dead Cinci team and then even in '10 your team couldn't even pick up divisional hardware. That's context. Being in the right place to win 2 of those 4 games against questionable opponents when not beating any winning teams in season aside from Houston in the first game does not make for an impressive body of work. I dunno if one Conference Championship would have been enough, but without out the jets are just a mediocre **** pile sandwiched between one reasonably good and legitimate year. Context.. that was your word of the week last week or the one before.. and i'm invoking it.
Heretofore, your OCD bull**** about the jets ever being elite has been repudiated by 34 non jets homers, many of whom watch all games fins and jets through an unfiltered prism. As there's now an official referendum on FH, you really need to take this debate back to TGG as your hypothesis has been soundly rejected.
I do talk down to people at times, I apologize for that. You have to understand how I am constantly under attack by so many folks here simply b/c I root for a rival team. Sometimes I go overboard to but I think I do a good job of taking all that comes at me w/o losing it.
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And as for it being our fault you are under attack, I have no problems discussing football at TGG and get nothing but positive responses. Why? Because I stick to rational thoughts and don't insult the Jets fans especially when their team is down. Funny that I can be critical but do it constructively and have no issues with anybody there. Your fellow Jets fans feel the same way about you as we do here. Maybe you should take a break and try and figure out why you get attacked here and there and take a different approach.
Who the **** are you with "we have to understand" about you being attacked. Wrong answer pal. You need to understand you are a guest on a MIAMI DOLPHINS BOARD. We owe you nothing.
I take responsinility for some of it, I have a posting style that can annoy at times but it's different here than at TGG. here I am hated by nitwits simply b/c I am a Jet fan. I am not hated there, I'm not hated here by normal people but by those that act like children and think life is all about what team your root for I am hated.
This is MY board, I am amillion times mope valuable here than someone like you. B/c I don't root for the home team means nothing.
You can keep up your childish crusade against me all you want, it just makes you look bad(worse than usual) so have fun. When you want to have an intelligent football discussion I will be here waiting.