Mike TannenBum: Now "Kiss of Death" for 2 franchises!
No team with 9 wins will ever be considered elite. Sorry bro, no one is drinking that green Kool-Aid on this site. You guys barely limped in the playoffs both years. Besides Elite teams typically have elits QB's and good coaches. Sanchez and Ryan need demotions to back QB and Defensive Coordinator.
clinching a playoff berth in week 16 in 2010 is barely limping in?
MOST playoff wins in league(tied), most playoff wins in AFC, most title game apps- that's elite no matter what way you slice it.
Just checking in to see if some merciful person has added a "Seriously? Are you on crack for even suggesting they were elite?" option.
I've said it 999 times and I'll make it 1,000. If the Dolphins went to the AFCCG in 2009 and 2010, they would not be elite. IMO, the only time the Miami Dolphins were elite was in the early 70s.I know this will be difficult since Miami never even contends for the playoffs let alone wins playoff games but pretend Miami did in '09 & '10 what the jets did and let me know how you feel. Something tells me you guys would have very different opinions.
---------- Post added at 11:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:53 AM ----------
Point is that you can't have it both ways. You can't say that eli and the giants weren't elite last year only to claim that the jets were in 2009. Same reg season record, only better playoff results for the giants. You could make a case for the 2010 jets being a very good team, but a team that gets beat before the superbowl for a second straight year can't be considered elite, regardless of stats, which as i've said above i bet you would trade instantly for a SB win.
we were one of the last 4 teams standing, last 2 in our conference- that is elite.
When did I say the '07 or '11 NYG teams weren't elite? I said ELI wasn't elite, team vs. individual are 2 different arguments. A guy who threw 25 INts in '10 and has led his team to 1 PO app in the last 4 years is not elite, the elite QBs put up big #s and always have their teams in contention. Maybe every once in a while they miss a postseason but not 3 in 4 years and usually it is b/c of injury.