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Thread: Is Ryan Tannehill Going to Become a Franchise QB? | Part II

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    I love this thread and the thought process behind it, but it concluding that Christian Ponder is a franchise QB is... troubling
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    Great post.
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    Very insightful post!
    The more I look at Tannehill, I feel there is a lot to like.
    I'm more worried about our system/Sherman than Tannehill to be quite honest.
    I know I'm in the minority but imo Tannehill is being held back.
    Sherman isn't doing anything to help him or to make it easier on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Dingaling View Post
    To be a franchise QB, you have to lead your team to more victories than losses. You need atleast a 2:1 TD to Int ratio and a QB rating consistently in the high 80s or 90s. He has a ton of work to do but surrounding him with elite talent is the first step. I've seen some good and I've seen some very bad from him this year, which is expected from a rookie. I'm still waiting for that come from behind 2min drive to win the game. Luck, RG3, Wilson, and even Cousins have done that this year. I want to see a huge jump from last year and then maybe we can say he is the Franchise QB. Until then, he's just another guy with potential.
    Um hello!!!! Thought he did that in the Seahawks game!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy685 View Post
    I love this thread and the thought process behind it, but it concluding that Christian Ponder is a franchise QB is... troubling
    Moving him to the "non-franchise QB" group changes the findings regarding Tannehill non-signifcantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shouright View Post
    Moving him to the "non-franchise QB" group changes the findings regarding Tannehill non-signifcantly.
    This is said in a rather confusing way, so apologies if I misunderstood you, but I think it calls into question the metrics you are using to measure and ultimately crown "franchise quarterback"

    Simply put, Christian Ponder might be one of the 3 worst QBs in the NFL. I'm not even kidding. He lacks the arm, he lacks the progression in his reads, and his footwork is pretty questionable. He's carried by Percy Harvin and AdP. It's not even close.
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    Bravo, man! Bravo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy685 View Post
    This is said in a rather confusing way, so apologies if I misunderstood you, but I think it calls into question the metrics you are using to measure and ultimately crown "franchise quarterback"

    Simply put, Christian Ponder might be one of the 3 worst QBs in the NFL. I'm not even kidding. He lacks the arm, he lacks the progression in his reads, and his footwork is pretty questionable. He's carried by Percy Harvin and AdP. It's not even close.
    There are ways of going about determining who is and is not a franchise QB other than by using QB rating. However, QB rating has what we call construct validity and predictive validity, insofar as it 1) strongly correlates with the consensus perceptions of QB quality (despite possible exceptions to the rule, such as Ponder, perhaps; i.e., no correlation is perfect), and 2) is strongly correlated with winning.

    In other words, the QBs who are widely thought to have the best ability typically have the best QB ratings (though there are exceptions to the rule), and QB rating is also strongly correlated with winning. There may be other ways of determining who is and is not a franchise QB, but I'm not sure those ways will have both of those important characteristics.
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    Tanne needs at least two years behind center in order to verify if he will be given the franchise tag. It's too early now.
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