If we had a crystal ball, sure Egnew over Hilton was a bad call, however I can't fault them for taking Egnew when they did... I'm sure Ireland/Philbin viewed Egnew as the 3rd best TE in the draft, after the Colts doubled up on TE, they had to make the move if they wanted to get a TE that they thought woulf fit the system, sadly lit looks like they were wrong... Hilton I believe was the 16th WR taken, we weren't the only team who passed on this guy... But if I may say so, it has been reported that Ireland asked for Hilton in the VD trade, which means he liked (recgonized his talent) and probaly wanted to draft him, just didn't get there in time (most likely because they had to move on Egnew)...
Who gives a **** what he asked Dez Bryant in an interview, sounds like he was spot on if you ask me, Dez Bryant needs a baby sitter. What grown ass man needs a baby sitter?
Statistaclly, if I had to guess, playing it safe will probably score you a better draft then being reckless. If not, it's probaly 50/50 hit or miss (safe to reckless).
Agreed, 100%!Things Ireland definitely should at least share some blame on:
-the FA acquisitions of Justin Smiley and Jake Grove and the contracts given to each
-largely ignoring skills position players in early rounds of drafts
agreed!Things I give Ireland credit for:
-trading for Reggie Bush
-his decisions not to panic at QB and trade for guys like Kyle Orton
As for this last draft class, it is way too early to be putting any of them in either a positive or negative category. Tannehill shows potential, as do Miller, Martin and Vernon to a lesser degree. That's all it is right now-potential. I'm also not going to fault him for guys like Legadu Naanee. That was a low risk move that didn't work out. It is, however, a microcosm of how he has addressed the WR position on the whole during his tenure so far. As for Tannehill, I have always gotten the impression that the pick was highly influenced by Philbin and Mike Sherman-and most likely Stephen Ross too. I think Ireland knew he had to take a QB in round 1 and he took the guy whom everyone thought was the best one left.
Great post all together!
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2) Its not Irelands job to draft the coaches players, its his job to build a winning roster. If he let Sparano influence his picks, then he should be fired for willingly giving up his power. If Ireland drafted players he knew were bad because his coach begged him or scheme demanded it, he should be fired.
3) Miami is loaded up on draft picks and free agency because Ireland and company screwed the pooch in the past. Sure, we have an extra second round pick, but how did we get it? By trading away a former first round pick. Sure, we have an extra third round pick, how did we get it? By trading away a player we spent (multiple) second round picks on. Thats just bad math. And why did we get all this cap room? We got it by previously not signing players. Why didnt we sign players in the past? Because our team was being strangled by the contracts of horrific former signings.
4) I'll be stunned if any of those players make any sort of impact. Every single year we have people starting threads on this forum talking about late round draft picks and how they will become studs. Then those players are cut and the posters move onto the more recent "under the radar" signings. Anyone remember Matt Baker? Countless threads about him. What has he done lately?
5) Richard Marshall was a terrible signing. We gave $5 million a year to a player who was going on his 3rd team in 3 years. We might not have seen his injury coming, but most of us knew he wasnt going to be starter material. In the limited time he played, he did nothing to contradict that opinion. Many on here agree Sean Smith is nothing more than a number 2 corner. And Marshall was worse then him. Hardly impressed.
6) Other then Ireland having the words "Miami Dolphins General Manager" in his title, what has he done to secure your loyalty? Why do you believe he will make this team a Superbowl contender? You have nothing to go on, especially since you believe this was only his first year on the job. I find that to many people are only loyal to the people who currently occupy the front office and not to the team itself.
7) And for reasons explained above(and so many more), i will never admit he has only been here for a year. People can go through all sorts of mental gymnastics to excuse Ireland for the horrific job hes done, but its indisputable that our team has been losing while hes been in our front office. And thats what the bottom line should be.
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Here is another way to look at the Ireland situation...
He is the 2nd best GM in our division, and probably in the top ten GMs in the NFL.
I don't have a problem with the GM. I don't like the emphasis he places on value versus SKILL though. In the draft I agree with the idea that you should always draft the BEST player, not the player with the most value.
The bottom line with Ireland is that anyone who actually has watched the Dolphin games for the past two seasons knows that the team has UNDERPERFORMED.
The team has enough talent to have won more games than they did.
Id easily take Ted Thompson, Rick Smith, Kevin Colbert, Ozzie Newsome, Ryan Grigson, John Elway, Jerry Reese, Martin Mayhew, Thomas Dimitroff, Mickey Loomis, Mark Dominik, Les Snead, Trent Baalke, and John Schneider over Ireland. Heck, given their relative recent success, id take Bruce Allen and Mike friggin Brown over Ireland. Thats 16 people right there and excludes a couple of new/"young" general managers like Phil Emery and Tom Telesco. Its not an exaggeration to say Ireland is among the 10 worst general managers in the NFL. Our 4 consecutive losing seasons(tied for worst in Miami Dolphins history) back up that claim.
This is a talented team that underperformed? High-larious.