Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
There are no other ways to interpret facts. Facts are facts. 2+2=4. An atom is made of protons, neutrons, and electrons. Crime and violence is directly correlated to poverty. There is no way to interpret this stuff other than for what it is. So when you get these numbskulls coming in here and make blanket statements like "history and reality don't support their blah blah wah wah", it's nothing more than someone who doesn't know what the **** they are talking about, can't convey what they want to say, or are just incapable of having an intelligent conversation trying to make themselves feel better. So yes, I find that funny. The predictability of it hilarious. These Neo-cons come and go, yet the same couple of techniques tend to stick around. GoFins isn't the first one to use that stupid history and reality line, and when he stops posting here in a few weeks/months/whatever, another one will show up and use it again. It's like clockwork...


I find your post and your dealings with GoFins a bit ironic considering it’s in the very thread where you complained about other people being “condescending” and “immature”. Be that as it may, I think it is clear that you do not understand the nature of facts and even the basics of epistemology for that matter. I never said that the facts themselves change (although they certainly can because they are merely observations and our observations are not infallible), I said that the interpretation of the facts depends on your belief system, which it does. For example, you and I are going to have very different interpretations for the fossil record and what it means in relation to the history of life on Earth; same fact, two very different conclusions.