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I've lived outside LA in the rolling hills of Ventura County. I've been to see the Rams and Raiders at the Coliseum and then Rams at Anaheim Stadium. Always plenty of seats available and a generally blase' crowd once you peeled back the hardcore layer. I also remember when the Seahawks tried to move their franchise to LA, already relocating their administrative office before the league intervened to prevent them. Also remember when Al Davis extorted $6million good faith money from the eastern city of Irwindale supposedly to build a stadium on one of their razed rock quarries. What a scumbag crook he was! I've been to Kings games when they they signed Gretzky and you couldn't get a seat at face value, and then after he was gone when you could pick up a couple from scalpers at less than face value.
The LA Metro area is a huge market, pretty affluent including the surrounding burbs so on paper it's a good market. However they are largely fair-weather fans and those who aren't have been emotionally involved in other teams for so long, it's not likely they'll quickly shift their allegiances. Long way of saying, they will back a team that's a novelty - for awhile, or a winner, but unless the game's not televised locally, the LA/Orange County market is far from a license to print money.
"I worry about wins; I don't worry about meaningless fantasy #s"
(fine for RT17 but not when it comes to someone's HC and beloved QB)
IMO the only thing that keeps Miami in Miami is the taxes. Without that, this franchise Almost for certain would be gone.
uh oh, this doesn't sound like good news. I understand this is Ross' company and not the Dolphins directly, and it should be pointed out that Ross actually stepped down as CEO of Related back in September. Though he did make the statment that his role and activity in the buisness would not change, just the titles. So it would be obvious to conclude that Ross does have a hand in this bid for AEG, and the Los Angeles football proposal.
This may have absolutely NOTHING to do with the Miami Dolphins. Then again, it could have everything to do with it. Ross wants to keep the Dolphins in Miami and the proposed renovations prove that. If the stadium renovations are approved the team is going to sign a long term lease with Miami through 2034. Then all this relocation talk is not even happening. If the renovations don't get approved and Ross' company aquires the LA football plans, yikes! You can call it the "fear card" or whatever you want, but if Ross has both the unrenovated Sun Life Stadium and the future state of the art stadium in Los Angeles, where do you think he will want HIS team playing at? Attendance and local fan support for the Dolphins SUCKS, and yes long term in Los Angeles might not be better. However, initially the LA stadium will be packed you can guarantee it. Ross is 72, he probably doesn't really care if a team fails in LA 15-20 years down the road.
Call it fear, call it whatever you want. This is real people, we all should be worried.
Take a guess at how surprised I'd be if Ross packed up and headed out to West.
I seriously doubt the NFL would approve of Miami losing the Dolphins. Ross is being an idiot if he is trying to bully the taxpayers into helping to fund the renovations. They just got screwed by the Marlins and Ross is only vilifying himself.
Perhaps the new logo is just going to be the same one with "LA" on the helmet instead of "M".
This seems like a strecth to say they are leaving but lets assume they do, will you guys still support the team?
Outside of taxes, there's no reason for Ross to keep the team here. I dont think the team will leave, but it's way more realistic than people think.
This guy is a real estate mogul in NYC, you dont make billions of dollars in NYC real estate sitting around and doing nothing and making bad decisions.