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View Poll Results: Your position on gun control in America?

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  • Immediate ban on all guns.

    0 0%
  • Guns only for military/police.

    2 3.23%
  • Bolt/pump/lever action ok, no semi-autos.

    9 14.52%
  • Gun laws are fine as they currently stand.

    15 24.19%
  • Select-fire weapons should be allowed.

    6 9.68%
  • You can have them when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.

    16 25.81%
  • I want a tank.

    14 22.58%
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Thread: Go on record: YOUR gun control position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    There are a great number of politicians, pundits, and voters who have made no secret of their desire to disarm every American. Their desire is no secret or conspiracy, however the lengths they are willing to go to achieve this conceal a great number of secrets and conspiracies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunaphish429 View Post
    regular citizens dont need guns to survive. There is almost no use for them in our society. All they do is cause havoc. The government tells you that you cant do drugs. It maybe your natural right to do what you want but when others are put at risk the government must act. And its about time. The government cant watch every person and prevent any persons from committing crimes. The only thing law enforcement can do is enforce consequences for ones actions and as we have seen these ppl have disregard for everyones lifes even their own.. so i support gun laws. Make them extreme. Make it hard for anyone to get one and make the consequences harsh for someone who uses one in a crime or obtains one illegally ..

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    The U.S. Constitution (you know, the document that outlines what our government can and cannot do) disagrees with you.
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    Its not realistically possible to ban guns and enforce that ban and every semi-sane politician knows that. Relax guys. Nobody is gonna take your guns.




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    Re: Go on record: YOUR gun control position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bumpus View Post
    The U.S. Constitution (you know, the document that outlines what our government can and cannot do) disagrees with you.
    Well i disagree with you that it disagrees with me.

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    A terrible tradegy occurred. A sick bastard walked into a school and shot little kids. Now, some people are deciding to attack the Second Amendment.


    Hate speech happens. People are inspired by the words of others to injure, maim, & even kill groups of people they don't like. We, as Americans, continue (rightly so) to defend the First Amendment.





    The Bill of Rights is not a frigging salad bar. You don't get to decide which Constitutionally protected individual liberties are important, & which aren't.

    How dare you.


    Don't want to exercise your Second Amendment rights? Fine, don't.

    But, I'll thank you to keep your grubby dick-beaters the hell off of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunaphish429 View Post
    Well i disagree with you that it disagrees with me.

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    http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitut...cond_amendment

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
    Which part can I clarify for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumpus View Post
    Well-regulated would be a good start. But I agree that it is clear about taking weapons in their entirety...

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    Re: Go on record: YOUR gun control position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bumpus View Post
    A terrible tradegy occurred. A sick bastard walked into a school and shot little kids. Now, some people are deciding to attack the Second Amendment.


    Hate speech happens. People are inspired by the words of others to injure, maim, & even kill groups of people they don't like. We, as Americans, continue (rightly so) to defend the First Amendment.





    The Bill of Rights is not a frigging salad bar. You don't get to decide which Constitutionally protected individual liberties are important, & which aren't.

    How dare you.


    Don't want to exercise your Second Amendment rights? Fine, don't.

    But, I'll thank you to keep your grubby dick-beaters the hell off of mine.
    I can have an opinion about anything i want. I also think there are freedoms ppl should have and ppl should not have. I am sorry you dont need a gun. Its not imperative to your survival. If you wanna protect yourself get a dog or a security system. If we lived in a world where ppl were responsible all the time then we could have guns...but ppl are not. And when they go crazy somehow guns are always involved. We cant change televison and we cant change movies. The only thing we can change are the tools that ppl have to destroy. And guns are far too easily accessible and far too destructive. I also think that a 300 year old piece of paper does not mean **** to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunaphish429 View Post
    I can have an opinion about anything i want. I also think there are freedoms ppl should have and ppl should not have. I am sorry you dont need a gun. Its not imperative to your survival. If you wanna protect yourself get a dog or a security system. If we lived in a world where ppl were responsible all the time then we could have guns...but ppl are not. And when they go crazy somehow guns are always involved. We cant change televison and we cant change movies. The only thing we can change are the tools that ppl have to destroy. And guns are far too easily accessible and far too destructive. I also think that a 300 year old piece of paper does not mean **** to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    Well-regulated would be a good start. But I agree that it is clear about taking weapons in their entirety...
    "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

    (well-regulated militia) seems to be a package deal...
    Honestly, the gun laws that exist (if they were executed to their full extent) would suffice for "well-regulated."

    However the entirety of the first line is only proving a claim,
    "A well regulated Militia = being necessary to the security of a free State"
    premise: a well-regulated militia necessitates a secure state.
    premise: Citizen's being able to own firearms is necessary for the formation of militia
    conclusion: therefore citizen's will have the right to own firearms.

    the latter portion explicitly states the right, "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." this being the case, the first portion can only be used to provide historical context as to why the right was explicitly stated. Regardless the constitution was supposed to be a breathing document, if the right to bear arms is no longer important to the american republic then the constitution should be amended. The historical context behind the initial framing should not be cited as the primary modern reasoning behind the right itself.
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