On top of all the crazy surveillance (possible due to the Patriot Act), there's also the National Defense Authorization Act, and H.R. 347. If not for public awareness, SOPA would also be a reality. The Fairness Doctrine is another idea that has also been tossed around by congress. But you're right, there's nothing to worry about.
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There's this misconception that conservatives are just trying to spread fear because, for whatever reason, they hate Obama. Here's a fun little fact, when the Patriot Act was extended in 2009, the Democrat vote was split approx. 50/50. The Republican vote, however, was overwhelmingly in favor of the extension ( something like 4:1 in favor of extending the bill). Obama is only part of the problem. I don't care where you stand politically, we all have reason to worry. I'd encourage everyone watch (or listen to) the 2nd video I just posted. Ignore the fact that this was a lecture at a socialism conference.
Last edited by Breed; 02-01-2013 at 07:01 PM.
Here you go Phins. This at a train station.
The only failure here is your inability to defend the 4th amendment in any way, shape or form.
I have in the past, and continue to do so, criticized the TSA. As a matter of fact in my opinion it is a waste of money, resources, time and yes in some instances infringes on the 4th amendment. I know because I refused to be searched by the TSA because there were no grounds for it. The TSA employs people who would probably not get a job somewhere else or would just push shifts as a security guard in the middle of the night on some parking lot. It is nothing else but a big work program and does very little for security.
If you asked me I rather dismantle TSA and Homeland security today instead of tomorrow.
My issue is that this is a video about a presidential inauguration event which always had security and since the inception of the TSA probably done by the TSA. Before that it was just another security company or government organization. It was never before considered a violation of the 4th but now.
If anybody wants to trash the TSA I am all the way with them but put forth videos where the 4th Amendment is really trampled not at an event which always had searches. And considering the threat a President is under I consider these searches warranted.
Heck, in regards to your first video I put some pics up a while ago about cameras being installed everywhere in Florida. I am no dummy. I know that some of our rights are being trampled on in the name of national security. But instead of whining and acting like an internet commando I do something about it.
This thread is a failure because it is trying to make an argument where there should be no argument. There are so many examples to post from where you can show violations of the 4th amendment but they choose to argue a moment when there should be no argument. Obama did not invent the security at the presidential Inauguration, neither did Bush, nor did Clinton. It was always there.
Last edited by phins_4_ever; 01-31-2013 at 12:17 AM.
"....if there is activity in the ball prior to the rubbing action....
Bill Belichick, Sat Jan 24, 2015
"You may think that you are some kind of god to these people. But we both know what you really are."
"What's that? A criminal?"
"Worse. A politician."
Source: Under The Dome
What does Viagra has to do with this thread? If you want to continue with the Viagra discussion just post in that particular thread. It will pop back up (pun intended) to the top.
Right now you look like poster with no answers trying to hide behind an old thread I have already forgotten about. Is that Viagra thing hanging (pun intended) in your head this whole time? And you had no relief yet (pun intended)?
You are a funny poster.
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