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    FA Rotoworld: Phins see smith as "good" not "great", most likely to hit FA

    Sean Smith - DB - Dolphins

    The Miami Herald confirms that CB Sean Smith is likely to reach free agency without a deal in place with the Dolphins.

    Smith and his agent are using Jason McCourty's six-year, $43 million contract as a baseline in negotiations, and plugged-in columnist Armando Salguero considers that too pricey even for the cap-rich Dolphins. Per Salguero, the Fins view Smith as more of a "good player" as opposed to a "game changer or
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    Since when is Jason McCourty a "game changer"?

    The contract Smith and his agent are asking for is what you pay the kind of player that the Dolphins describe Sean Smith as being.

    This strikes me as posturing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Since when is Jason McCourty a "game changer"?

    The contract Smith and his agent are asking for is what you pay the kind of player that the Dolphins describe Sean Smith as being.

    This strikes me as posturing.
    In all honestly, and I've said this before, that starting spot for negotiation at 7 million a year seems very reasonable and still does. He isn't an elite CB, and he's not asking for elite CB money. He's asking for solid starting CB money which he is. I've looked at almost every CB on the market and most of them have had injury issues or they are getting up there in years.

    This is like the backup QB argument . . . everyone wants the starter gone until the backup gets in there and ****s the bed. Everybody wants another CB until they perform worse than what you already have. Smith is solid, hell he's the only thing that resembles solid at CB on this team. We'd be silly to not resign him within reason, and 7 million a year is within reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kdawg954 View Post
    In all honestly, and I've said this before, that starting spot for negotiation at 7 million a year seems very reasonable and still does. He isn't an elite CB, and he's not asking for elite CB money. He's asking for solid starting CB money which he is. I've looked at almost every CB on the market and most of them have had injury issues or they are getting up there in years.
    Agreeed, $6-7 million per year is pretty reasonable for an average starting CB who is still young and entering his second contract.

    My only issue is the length of 6 years. I think signing a 3 or 4 year contract would be ideal for Miami, or at least being able to void the last 2 years without consequence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zounds View Post
    Agreeed, $6-7 million per year is pretty reasonable for an average starting CB who is still young and entering his second contract.

    My only issue is the length of 6 years. I think signing a 3 or 4 year contract would be ideal for Miami, or at least being able to void the last 2 years without consequence.
    agreed.

    Smith is still very immature, I can see him getting his 6 year deal and feel like he doesn't have to put forth a great effort... I wouldn't be apposed to giving him 6-7million a year, but I would set up the contract like you suggest, this way he has that "better perform or forget getting next years 7 million" looming over his head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zounds View Post
    Agreeed, $6-7 million per year is pretty reasonable for an average starting CB who is still young and entering his second contract.

    My only issue is the length of 6 years. I think signing a 3 or 4 year contract would be ideal for Miami, or at least being able to void the last 2 years without consequence.
    My contract for him was 5 years and 32.5 million (6.5 million per) so the numbers, though a little north of where I have them, aren't bad. I do agree it would be nice to throw in an easy out in case it just goes downhill with Smith but overall I honestly was expecting a starting point around 9 or 10 million so to see only 7.16 million as a starting point is a relief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zounds View Post
    Agreeed, $6-7 million per year is pretty reasonable for an average starting CB who is still young and entering his second contract.

    My only issue is the length of 6 years. I think signing a 3 or 4 year contract would be ideal for Miami, or at least being able to void the last 2 years without consequence.
    All NFL contracts are structured so that when a player is cut, the remaining years are voided. Also, voiding any of the remaining years of a contract can't be "without consequence" since any bonus is prorated over the life of the remaining part of the contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Since when is Jason McCourty a "game changer"?

    The contract Smith and his agent are asking for is what you pay the kind of player that the Dolphins describe Sean Smith as being.

    This strikes me as posturing.
    Since when is Mando considered to be "plugged in"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Since when is Jason McCourty a "game changer"?

    The contract Smith and his agent are asking for is what you pay the kind of player that the Dolphins describe Sean Smith as being.

    This strikes me as posturing.
    The 2011 agreement was supposed to bring player salaries down a little in the short run; that's one of the reasons why the salary cap was lowered instead of raised from 2009. A lot of teams just haven't got the memo and are still overpaying average and sub-par players.
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    Since when is Jason McCourty a "game changer"?

    The contract Smith and his agent are asking for is what you pay the kind of player that the Dolphins describe Sean Smith as being.

    This strikes me as posturing.
    I personally think we should let smith walk he is too inconsistent. Sign brent grimes or cox from jax then draft jordan poyer.
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