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Thread: Ziggy Ansah

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    He was terrible during the practice week but showed up during the game itself mostly by flashing his superior athleticism and motor. In pass rush I think the only tackle he could consistently beat was Rick Wagner who was one of the worst tackles on either squad from the week of practice. Otherwise his influence on the game was mostly motor stuff, second chance opportunities where the quarterback leaves the pocket or works it improperly, coverage sacks, etc.

    Kawann Short was far better at defensive tackle than Zeke Ansah was at defensive end, IMO.

    And Cornelius Washington of Georgia was a straight up better pass rusher than Ansah during the game, and was a FAR better pass rusher during the week of practice. That's one guy you'd better look out for rising up the boards.

    I like Zeke Ansah a lot. He made plays exactly as you would hope a two-down, base defensive end in your 4-3 defense would. However he came no closer to showing me that he can rush the passer from end or tackle on passing downs and that is the key to whether he's worth it at 12 overall or not.

    Perfect example happened in the final 2 minutes. The North was down too much to still win or tie the game but everyone was treating that final 2 minutes exactly like they would a game-ending drive, because they knew that's what the scouts wanted to see. This is where your pass rushers are supposed to close out the game for you. Zeke Ansah got a sack, but it was a pure coverage sack where the coverage was so strong the QB pulled down the ball and ran straight up into where Ansah was. Otherwise, Ansah couldn't get a lick of pressure on this simulated all-important game-ending drive. The North went up the field for a touchdown. That's what you have to be scared about if you're looking at taking him 12 overall. You buy a pass rusher at 12 overall thinking he's going to help you close out the game in situations like those. But instead you had a player that was really no better than Koa Misi would've been in the same situation.
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    ck, i dont even see cornelius washington listed at all on two sites i frequent!

    rising up from the undrafted's? nice size from senior bowl weigh in though. 6'4" 268 holy crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finfan54 View Post
    ck, i dont even see cornelius washington listed at all on two sites i frequent!

    rising up from the undrafted's? nice size from senior bowl weigh in though. 6'4" 268 holy crap.
    He'll rise quickly. There's a reason he was invited to the Senior Bowl.

    Washington's story is interesting because at Georgia he looked lethargic at times, but seemed to come alive when they actually asked him to do what he's good at, which is engage in outside pass rush from a down position. They just didn't have him do that much because of the way they run their defense. He was playing some closed end, playing inside the tackle's shoulder, just outside the tackle's shoulder, sometimes an OLB position, sometimes a 7 technique. He'd often stunt to the B gap. He was "decent" at all of these things but it's not until you ask him to engage in straight up pass rush that you see him come alive. He got more chances to show that at Senior Bowl practices and he really showed up. He showed up equally well in the games themselves, getting held at least four times that I saw (called twice I believe), getting a sack-strip, and also pressuring the passer a few more times including once that I believe resulted in an interception. He was every bit as impactful as Zeke Ansah, just in a different way. A more traditional pass rushing way.

    He reminds me so much of Mark Anderson. I believe he'll test like Mark Anderson and at the next level I think he'll play like Mark Anderson. When you "get it right" with him as far as how you play him and in what kinds of situations you play him, he could be a very productive pass rusher at the next level. I just don't know if he's ever going to be a complete guy. But you'll get him in the mid rounds, and you're going to get a good return on investment at that level if you use him right.

    He was 6'4" and I believe 264 lbs with 34 inch arms and an 82 inch wing span. He's got a nice frame. So did/does Mark Anderson.
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    ansah dominated a bunch of scrubs at the senior bowl...stiff as they come billy wagner at tackle the worst blocking big body te that used to play defensive end in kaza who is god awful in all facets and whipped guys who can't block a lick in the te otten who proved that if you put him in line it's a disaster waiting to happen...

    the late game sack ansah got was a direct reflection of just an awful bail the pocket straight back decision by nassib who looked like garbage in the game...he ran right into that sack...ansah showed to be a solid all around football player but dammit all guys we need impact pass rush talent and upside and his pass rush at this stage is very marginal and limited...he just does not possess rediculous rush tools and arsenal...so the upside as a pass rusher is a problem...whooping scrubs isn't gonna get it done on sundays
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    The QBs and O-line of the North team were so appalling, I don't see a lot of benefit in assessing the performance of anybody when they had the ball. Wheaton and Goodwin somehow managed to come out looking good, on the scraps they got. But in reality, the South D had a pretty easy time and the North O couldn't string much of anything together.

    I wouldn't include that game in any eval of a guy like Ansah, personally.

    Watching the South O against the North D was far more instructive, imo. A lot of good players in that North D. I know Trufant has been a darling of the Bowl week, but I am starting to really warm to Poyer coming on board. I thought he was excellent in coverage and is a ball magnet. Sylvester Williams outplayed Short of Purdue imo. Both DTs had a monster job on their hands with Schwenke and Warmack, who were outstanding. They still found opportunities to shine, which is no mean feat.
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    I'd draft this ****er just because his name is Ziggy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY8123 View Post
    I'd draft this ****er just because his name is Ziggy.
    If you're drafting on names only, I point you towards Blue Note Records legendary jazz trombonist Barkevious Mingo. Or you may want to select Argentinian "B Movie" Action Hero Baccari Rambo.
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