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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    That sounds about right, but I don't know for sure. The latest generation of consoles are the first to make online gaming easy and accessible to all, and they came out around that time I believe.

    Realism has little to do with anything as far as gaming and violence goes. In fact, gaming has little to do with violence at all. It's a scapegoat for the fact that we have a societal problem no one wants to acknowledge. It's easier to say that tangible thing over there is the problem instead of admitting we're the problem...
    So are you saying that online gaming doesn't bring out aggression? If so, then you would be completely wrong. Have you ever played a game of Call of Duty or Halo online? It is super competitive (Try playing a match if you haven't just for kicks and giggles and see how many times somebody on your team or on the other team curses you out. Or if they aren't swearing at you they are threatening you in some way or another). As a matter of fact my best friend and I play Call of Duty together (He is in Grad School right now for Psychology) when he has free time. He quits playing from time to time because he becomes too "aggressive". Frustration and aggression are two traits that come out quite a bit in FPS's. It is extremely competitive.

    Edit: As for the article you posted; I can believe it. Have you ever been to a soccer match in Europe? Pretty intense. Personally, most of my aggression comes out when I am playing sports or playing a FPS online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NamathDrunkLove View Post
    So are you saying that online gaming doesn't bring out aggression? If so, then you would be completely wrong. Have you ever played a game of Call of Duty or Halo online? It is super competitive (Try playing a match if you haven't just for kicks and giggles and see how many times somebody on your team or on the other team curses you out. Or if they aren't swearing at you they are threatening you in some way or another). As a matter of fact my best friend and I play Call of Duty together (He is in Grad School right now for Psychology) when he has free time. He quits playing from time to time because he becomes too "aggressive". Frustration and aggression are two traits that come out quite a bit in FPS's. It is extremely competitive.

    Edit: As for the article you posted; I can believe it. Have you ever been to a soccer match in Europe? Pretty intense. Personally, most of my aggression comes out when I am playing sports or playing a FPS online.
    That same aggression would come out in any competitive situation is the point. To blame it solely on video games is disingenuous. That's what I mean by it being a scapegoat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    That same aggression would come out in any competitive situation is the point. To blame it solely on video games is disingenuous. That's what I mean by it being a scapegoat...
    Ok gotchya. I wasn't sure if you were including online gameplay into your video games argument. I do agree with you though. The games themselves don't create the violence. I have always thought blaming "violent" games was a scapegoat. I do think there is a parenting problem in this country though that helps create the decaying society we live in. Too many times I hear children through my microphone when I am playing FPS's online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NamathDrunkLove View Post
    Ok gotchya. I wasn't sure if you were including online gameplay into your video games argument. I do agree with you though. The games themselves don't create the violence. I have always thought blaming "violent" games was a scapegoat. I do think there is a parenting problem in this country though that helps create the decaying society we live in. Too many times I hear children through my microphone when I am playing FPS's online.


    I have way too many stories of some 10 year old yelling at me on Xbox, calling me the worst he can think of, right after I shoot his face off in Max Payne. It's funny until I realize he is allowed to talk like that, yell, scream, whatever, and he is still playing the game. If I acted like that as a kid, my dad would have taken my video games and smashed them in front of me. That kind of behavior is unacceptable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post


    I have way too many stories of some 10 year old yelling at me on Xbox, calling me the worst he can think of, right after I shoot his face off in Max Payne. It's funny until I realize he is allowed to talk like that, yell, scream, whatever, and he is still playing the game. If I acted like that as a kid, my dad would have taken my video games and smashed them in front of me. That kind of behavior is unacceptable...
    My dad once threw away my brother's game boy when he flipped out. I think I got beat too for teasing him about it

    And video games can definitely bring out aggression and frustration, but from what Ive experienced its very temporary. A quick expletive laced tirade and I feel better. Only time I can recall flipping out bad was once when I was on a losing streak in Madden. I had lost a few in a row so I was already somewhat annoyed. Next game I got out to a good lead and ended up being ahead 14 with less than a minute left and lost. KO return for a TD, onside kick recovered, absolutely ridiculous deep ball catch and run, he wins the toss in OT and kicks a FG to win. Keep in mind, Im just sitting there stewing on rage the whole time this is unfolding in front of me and I was already an angsty teenager filled with whatever causes us to be raging little douchers at that age. I ended up cracking a beat up glass table, yelling a string of the most vile language I could think of, and really wanting to punch the wall. It didnt help that the dude sent me a message saying "LOL" or something like that. Mad doesnt even begin to describe it




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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerdolphin View Post
    My dad once threw away my brother's game boy when he flipped out. I think I got beat too for teasing him about it

    And video games can definitely bring out aggression and frustration, but from what Ive experienced its very temporary. A quick expletive laced tirade and I feel better. Only time I can recall flipping out bad was once when I was on a losing streak in Madden. I had lost a few in a row so I was already somewhat annoyed. Next game I got out to a good lead and ended up being ahead 14 with less than a minute left and lost. KO return for a TD, onside kick recovered, absolutely ridiculous deep ball catch and run, he wins the toss in OT and kicks a FG to win. Keep in mind, Im just sitting there stewing on rage the whole time this is unfolding in front of me and I was already an angsty teenager filled with whatever causes us to be raging little douchers at that age. I ended up cracking a beat up glass table, yelling a string of the most vile language I could think of, and really wanting to punch the wall. It didnt help that the dude sent me a message saying "LOL" or something like that. Mad doesnt even begin to describe it
    I keep my cool pretty well luckily. Probably why I'm in the field I am. I'm pretty good at instigating, though. More than once I've been over at a buddy's place drinking and playing Street Fighter or something, and pretty much just trolling my friend who is always on the verge of losing it anyways. I actually got him to throw his full beer and storm out of the room, jump in his car and go home once. Not my fault if you can't take a little trash talk after I hadoken the **** out of your face with Ryu...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    That sounds about right, but I don't know for sure. The latest generation of consoles are the first to make online gaming easy and accessible to all, and they came out around that time I believe.

    Realism has little to do with anything as far as gaming and violence goes. In fact, gaming has little to do with violence at all. It's a scapegoat for the fact that we have a societal problem no one wants to acknowledge. It's easier to say that tangible thing over there is the problem instead of admitting we're the problem...
    I agree totally.



    Hmmm ...

    Off topic a bit, but could one draw the same generalization of "that tangible thing" to guns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumpus View Post
    I agree totally.



    Hmmm ...

    Off topic a bit, but could one draw the same generalization of "that tangible thing" to guns?
    They could, but it's not quite the same. No one is trying to take away all guns. They are worried about how easily accessible high-clip assault weapons are, and how they keep ending up in the hands of those people who, for whatever reason, want to kill a lot of people very quickly. They are acknowledging that there is a problem with our society being violent, and the means for that violence taking place is whats being addressed...
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