the last thing i want is mingo in our division...i would much rather see the jets take a dion jordan and face him than mingo off the edge...i'm not sure the jets would prefer mingo though cause he's at his best as a rusher with a hand in the dirt...why i think just about all the 43 teams will salivate about his upside as a 43 de...
also compared to jordan and the way he was used at oregon mingo as an olb is a much bigger projection as a 34 olb...i'm sure he could do it and do it well but ideally i think you want that kid going forward and with a hand in the dirt...dropping into the flats and a soft zone though shouldn't be much of a problem...
we'll see how much buzz mingo gets after he gets done at the combine...and drops some db like change of direction type #'s and runs a 4.5
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Mingo's problem, the reason he doesn't finish plays, is a lack of balance and bending ability. Watt always had that, and so did Jason Pierre-Paul.
I'm not opposed to guys at 12 overall that weren't totally productive for one reason or another as pass rushers. But if we're going that route I want the guy to have the potential to be a complete player, being big and strong to go along with the athletic ability.
I'm one of the few on this board who thinks we may re-sign Long to a reasonable contract. I sure hope it happens. But, if it doesn't, we need to draft a LT. If either of Fisher or Johnson are available, I'd definitely see us drafting them. After Joeckel and those two go off the board, I'm not sure there's really any more starting LT's in this draft. I like Pugh as a G. Kyle Long is still too raw to start at LT immediately. Letting Jake Long go would really force our hand in the draft. I don't wanna be the 2013 Arizona Cardinasl.
I'd be much happier drafting WR's and TE's, but I'm just fine if one of the elite pass rushers falls to us too. Martin and Garner simply isn't going to work.
well if mingo can't bend or lacks balance those things should be apparent at the combine on field work etc...i haven't seen anything like that personally but it's something to look for...
Really good discussion hoops and CK.
I'd be OK with Mingo at 12. Going into the draft process, there was no way I wanted any O-lineman at 12, but I think Cooper and Warmack are top-flight (but they'll fall some because people don't value the LG position as much as they should), and I think Johnson is close, and I see him with the biggest upside. Picking that high, if there are top-flight guys available, I think you have to get one. I think there's a pretty good chance that some of the WR's and DE's who will be available at 42 and 54 will be better than some of the guys we're considering at 12. Draft according to the swells of talent.
and yeah i'm banking on the kid developing into a monster given his tools...being they are so high end...
but lets also get back to the combine stuff...guys like jj watt in the top 12 vernon davis in the top 6 julio jones in the top 6 no one had them pegged to go that high and that highly thought of til they shredded the combine...that's when the buzz on those elite physical specimens took off...4.38 for jones at 230 lbs type stuff...it will be the same for mingo and for lane johnson once both these kids rip up indy...don't be surprised if there's heavy talk that lane johnson should be the first ot off the board after he gets done showing what an athlete he is...right now he's in round 1 talks and rightfully so but once he's done with the combine expect top 10 stuff...him and mingo both