My point isnt to say the founding fathers didnt say a militia was needed. My point is that times have changed and its not really a consideration anymore. It has happened historically, but there is no precedent set for going against a technologically advanced government and military with a bunch of overweight people, most of which have no stomach for the type of things theyd need to do, and accomplishing anything meaningful. Its just not gonna happen. You cant compare a revolution 100 years ago to one in America. The government in America has the capability to sever communication and hit vital targets of a resistance with ease. You may be able to last along time by just sporadically fighting, but you arent going to accomplish much.
"Politics is the Art of Looking for Trouble, Finding it Everywhere, Diagnosing it Incorrectly, and Applying the Wrong Remedies"
I'll say this for clarification because it annoys me. For example, the NDAA's ability to detain American citizens without trail, & the NSA spying on & copying every single last bit of your online activities & storing them on bottomless databases in Utah, are not conspiracies. They're fact. Just because something is unsavory & you don't like to think about it or believe it doesn't make it a conspiracy.
Tens of millions of citizens in protest, especially if there is a threat of armed resistance, would force the government to listen. I think it's also important to remember, the military also has family and friends that are civilian. I'm sure there are plenty of military that would be willing to bomb civilian targets, but there are also those that would potentially fight against tyranny. States like Texas would also almost assuredly join any possible fight.
But I also think if the **** ever did ever hit the fan, we would have some intervening force to help even the odds.
As a side note, I think that if the American people ever did fight back, it would be far different than any war ever fought. This is our home turf, but we certainly wouldn't have the advantage. From security cameras to security checkpoints, the technology is heavily in the government's favor. That's not even mentioning drones and other militarized technology. I think skilled hackers may be one of our better assets. Of course, the government also has their own programmers/hackers. Is it any wonder that the DOJ is focusing so much of its attention on "hacktivists"? Many of these hacktivists are getting significant prison time. Much more than what is deserved.
Fun little fact(s): Local law enforcement was going to let him off the hook since he returned everything he stole. The Feds then stepped in and took over the case, threatening Aaron Swartz with over 30 years prison time and over $4 million in fines. Helping a terrorist create a nuclear bomb only gets you 20 years in prison.
Let me play a hypothetical situation: There is no 9/11, and as a result, the intrusive measures that are currently in place never happened. In other words, the Constitution is intact. In this scenario, I'd be a lot more receptive to some of the "common sense" gun laws.
However, since 9/11 did happen, and we are becoming an Orwellian/Huxley society, the government doesn't deserve our trust.
Last edited by Breed; 01-30-2013 at 03:47 PM.