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Thread: BooM or Bust Mock

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    Quote Originally Posted by madridfinfan View Post
    We need playmakers.
    That much is a given. Here's a mock that would provide us with just that. It's not without risk of course (injuries and or character issues).
    It may not even be that realistic, although I don't hunk it's out if the realm
    Of possibility to hit on a number of these. Starting with a trade down is unlikely, but it was more
    Fun to think about it this way.
    It's highly unlikely that JI and Philbin share my draft strategy or philosophy, but would be interested in what you all think.

    1 WR Patterson (trade down to 20 and still get to snag him, talk about open field vision RAC!)

    2 TE Eifert (I've seen 2 mocks
    Recently putting him in 2nd, will open up the seam, can block too)

    2 DE Carredine (injury drops him, we pull the trigger, may need to wait a year, but worth the risk)

    2 WR Bailey (another playmaker for Tanne)

    3 FS Rambo (another playmaker, some risk here, but would be a great tandem with jones)

    3 OLB Thomas (evergthing you want in a LB, a welcome addition to help with pass rush and boost LB depth, of which we have none!)

    4 CB Matthieu (playmaker...also a risk, but at this stage, also worth the risk)

    5 OT Nixon (may not last til 5th.)

    6 OG Uzzi (supp pick)

    7 DE Kruger (thanks CK for the recent post. CBS has him as the #22 DE prospect, rd7/udfa!)

    7 TE Fauria (hope he's more than Joey haynos v2.0), and can provide a redzone/endzone threat with his height).

    Or could take a flyer on RB Lattimore here if he's miraculously still on the board.

    Offense:
    WR Patterson
    WR Bailey
    TE Eifert
    TE Fauria
    OT Nixon
    OG Uzzi

    Defense:
    DE Carredine
    DE Kruger
    OLB Thomas
    CB honey badger
    S Rambo

    I'm not sure if all the players you listed will be available where you mocked them, but I absolutely love your picks. If our draft worked out like this, I would be ecstatic - playmakers everywhere!!







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    Quote Originally Posted by XxfeensterxX View Post
    I believe he should have said

    Round one: Best player available at a posistion of need.
    Round two A: Best player available at a posistion of need.
    Round two B: Best player available at a posistion of need.
    Round three: Best player available at a posistion of need.

    Which is what he actually meant most likely.
    I am pretty sure that did DID NOT mean BPA at position of need, but it would have been smarter if he did.

    I have always proposed my "BIPA" method of drafting, which means "Best Impact Player Available". In a nutshell, this means picking the guy that will have the MOST IMPACT to your team. You look at all the available players, and you choose the one that will impact your team the greatest. And that person is not always the BPA. It is a combination of BPA and need, in the most efficient compination of such.

    Take an example, if Barkley slid all the way down to the bottom of RD1, I would say there is a good chance that he would be considered the BPA by most. But, I guarantee you that neither the Ravens nor the 49'ers would pick him. Why? Because he might be the BPA at that point, but they would get more "bang for buck" by drafting more towards needs and upcoming holes on their roster, hence the BIPA.
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    Good draft but question, do you have Hartline staying? Also assuming we get Jennings the depth chart would look like; 1. Jennings 2. Hartline 3. Patterson 4. Bess 5. Bailey 6. Matthews/Binns which is a definite upgrade.
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    I'm usually all for the BPA mantra but this team cannot score points at all! When are we going to have more than one or two 30 point games in a season around here? Our offense blows, and has blown for almost 15-20 years. Draft the hell out of playmakers at WR, TE, RB......everything else is secondary....even the secondary is secondary.

    Until we can score, we won't win. Draft offense heavy...let's take some risks for once.

    The Falcons D was average (still is)...yet they went out and got Gonzalez - then later traded up for Julio. No they aren't in the Superbowl but since they drafted their QB, they have done much better than we have.

    Screw the BPA stuff right now...go get some ballers that can score for Tanny.
















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    Mathieu isn't lasting that long...high 3rd max. Remember janoris Jenkins...
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    It's an interesting concept because I typically see the label of "boom-or-bust" a little differently than most people. For example, I don't see Tank Carridine as much of a boom-or-bust player at all. Nor Stedman Bailey.

    Cordarrelle Patterson is a boom-or-bust player in some ways. But only relative to price tag. He has a skill set that will see him playing football in the NFL for a long time, even if he doesn't end up very good. Think Ted Ginn. Six years later, Ted Ginn is playing in the Super Bowl. But overall, I see what people mean about Patterson being boom-or-bust so I'll accept it.

    Let me try one. But I'm not basing it on CBS' projections because I feel they're pretty far off on a lot of players.

    R1. DE Barkevious Mingo, LSU - A little more "bust" than "boom", IMO...but he exemplifies "boom or bust" because he's a fairly one-dimensional pass rusher whose one dimension is not very well proven and seems to have come up short on Saturdays more often than not.

    R2. WR Terrance Williams, Baylor - He is a guy I like but the fact of the matter is, if he does not end up a consistent vertical threat at the next level, then he is in trouble as a wide receiver. His all-around game is decent for the kind of deep threat player he is, but not good enough to make a living. You're buying him because you think he can get behind defenses and finish deep plays.

    R2. G/T Oday Aboushi, Virginia - Oday is definitely not going to play left tackle at the next level and there's a fair question whether he'll even play right tackle. This means you're stuck switching him to guard and considering his lack of experience there, what you could come out with is an entirely uninteresting player, or a guy that kills it. Total wildcard.

    R3. RB Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina - This is the REAL injury-related "boom or bust" player in this Draft, not Tank Carridine, IMO. Lattimore's knee injury was as gruesome as I've ever seen. Yet, James Andrews calls his recovery rate from it "Nothing short of a miracle". Do you believe Andrews? Well, he certainly called it right on Drew Brees' shoulder when he gave him a prognosis of full recovery, even as critics said Brees had a 20-25% chance of recovery. When Lattimore was healthy you could argue he was the best tailback in college football bar none.

    R3. DE Margus Hunt, Southern Methodist - The ultimate "boom or bust" prospect. Unbelievable physical tangibles, but in the form of a 26 year old that disappears against good competition, is inconsistent and still raw because he's only been playing football a few years.

    R4. FS Baccari Rambo, Georgia - Rambo is your typical "boom or bust" player in the secondary because he makes a LOT of plays (16 career interceptions, 6 forced fumbles, 3 TDs and a Blocked Kick)...but he also takes a lot of chances and gives up big plays, and does some stupid things on the field sometimes. He plays like a punk. But a talented punk.

    R5. TE Joseph Fauria, UCLA - I still have a hard time believing he falls even this far let alone to the 7th round as CBS has him. We'll see. He's a basketball player type of tight end that is great with the football in the air, particularly good near the end zone, but he's duck footed and has terrible pad level and technique in blocking. He will either be Jimmy Graham or Michael Egnew.

    R7. CB Tyrann Mathieu, LSU - A staple in any "boom or bust" draft for all of the obvious reasons. Take aside the habitual drug use, his problem has been about reliability and trust, not necessarily just the drug use. And even aside from that, he's tiny and doesn't run fast and you can't be sure he'll succeed either as a corner or a safety.

    R7. QB Nick Florence, Baylor - One of the few quarterbacks in this draft with the feet and athleticism you're looking for nowadays at the position, and he also shows at times an ability to make quick decisions that hurt a defense. He was fantastically productive in Baylor's offense, nearly as productive as Robert Griffin. Yet he's only 6'0" and his arm strength is questionable. Don't confuse him with Russell Wilson, but some of the criticisms and strengths between Wilson and Florence are similar.
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    If we could trade down and still pick up C. Patterson or K. Allen, I am all for it. I just would be mad if we were there to pick at 20 and both of them were gone....I would also be willing to maybe move down THREE spots to #15, for an extra third rounder, or a second rounder next year.
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    I like the draft...

    I would not mind if the Giants put a 1st round tender on Cruz to trade our 1st for him. But I am a fan of Patterson for sure and hope if we stick with our #1 that we use it on him. I do think Patterson will be taken in the Top 15, so a trade down is risky for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aara336 View Post
    Round One best player available
    Round two A BPA
    Round two B BPA
    Round three A BPA


    This how you win don't draft for need draft for value
    i agree to a point.
    if it so happens when we are on the clock that the BPA is a QB i think we pass
    and you have to fill needs or they will always be needs
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    I'd be fine with rds 1-4 with BPA, as long as I got my WR in free agency. If we don't stretch the field next year it's back to 8 in the box.
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