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Thread: Jonathan Martin Is Not An NFL Starting Caliber OT

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    OPINION

    You're certainly entitled to your opinion which may or may not be born out over the long haul. However, just so there's no one around here who might associate it as a statement of fact, in the future kindly use the above "post tag" to categorize it appropriately.

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    Martin made HUGE strides from what we saw in preseason to what we saw at the end of the year . . . . and that included a flop from RT to LT. He needs to get stronger, but he has the feet to be a real good LT and he really fits the type of LT that tends to be successful in the system we run. If he puts in the work this offseason, I could see him being a solid OT come next year.
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    well, i'll go on record and state that in fact Martin WILL be one of the starting OTs next year ... sorry. I do think we saw that at this point - he is better suited for LT, regardless of his overall stats or performance. Will he be Long as he was in his first 2 years in the league -- ummm, no - but then again, neither is Long. He has to get stronger and better this offseason ... i don't think anyone disagrees with that.

    what needs to happen quickly is for the FO to determine whether or not they will resign Long and keep Martin at RT, because if that is so -- he will need the entire offseason to work @ RT. it can't be a camp decision thing ... that is for sure.
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    Even if what you say about Martin is true, does he represent better value for the Dolphins than paying Long $10+ million a year? I did not notice much of a drop off in overall production when Martin came in.
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    I don't believe we keep Jake Long, unless he really signs less of a deal to prove his health to the Dolphins and other teams. I also wouldn't sleep on the progress of Will Yeatman. He was very solid blocking TE that has gained the weight and has been practicing behind the scenes fully as a OT and actually was kept over a couple of full fledged tackles last preseason.
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    He had a bad year but started to pick up towards the end. You don't throw in the towel after his rookie season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fsuhunter View Post
    Even if what you say about Martin is true, does he represent better value for the Dolphins than paying Long $10+ million a year? I did not notice much of a drop off in overall production when Martin came in.
    You can't judge Jake Long fully on what you saw last season. Jake has looked hurt the past 2 years and that IMO is a bigger reason not to commit long term to him. He definitely is a top tier tackle when he is fully healthy. The ZBS is less about having a dominant LT and more about the OLine working as a group. It requires good feet, which Jake does have, but he fits best as a smash mouth type of OT, which we don't necessarily run down here. You hate to lose your #1 overall pick after the rookie contract, but Miami's focus needs to be getting weapons for Ryan Tannehill and continue retooling this defense so that it can create more turnovers. I don't think Jake wanting 10 million plus is a great move for the Fins and losing him and not being able to replace him certainly shouldn't pressure me to make that type of commitment to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubby View Post
    I was going to insult you by saying he has a better chance of becoming an NFL Caliber OT then you do at becoming an Allstar Poster but I decided to take the high road and not insult anyone.
    Chubbs
    That's very admirable of you, Chubby. It takes a big man not to take advantage of such an easy opportunity to insult such a horrible post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott 1 View Post
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    and he may very well never be one.

    Sorry, but this just plain fact. Not only did he grade out poorly he actually led the league in QB hurries given up.

    There is a good chance that he will be a total bust.

    People on this sight need to get in touch with reality and stop penciling him in as a reliable starter.

    It is far more likely the Dolphins need starters at both tackle positions because Jerry isn't the answer at OT and Garner is worse than Martin on the outside.

    People should stop thinking the Dolphins are going to spend 20 mil in cap on WR's and use the #12 pick on WR's as well.

    Is there anybody out there in touch with reality who has an answer for the 2013 Dolphins OT positions???????????
    Get outta here with this crap after one rookie season... gtfo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kdawg954 View Post
    I don't believe we keep Jake Long, unless he really signs less of a deal to prove his health to the Dolphins and other teams. I also wouldn't sleep on the progress of Will Yeatman. He was very solid blocking TE that has gained the weight and has been practicing behind the scenes fully as a OT and actually was kept over a couple of full fledged tackles last preseason.
    it takes talent and determination, I'd definately give credit to Yeatman as far as determination goes.
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