Welcome to FinHeaven Fans Forums! We're glad to have you here. Please feel free to browse the forum. We'd like to invite you to join our community; doing so will enable you to view additional forums and post with our other members.



VIP Members don't see these ads. Join VIP Now
Page 4 of 8 FirstFirst 12345678 LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 74

Thread: Jonathan Martin Is Not An NFL Starting Caliber OT

  1. -31
    FinHeaven Elite

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Jan 2006
    Posts:
    10,203
    vCash:
    1750
    Loc:
    Miami, FL
    Thanks / No Thanks
    I just want him to hit the gym this coming season. We need him to be stronger than he's ever been.
    Quote Quote  

  2. -32
    Oronde's Avatar
    Starter

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Feb 2013
    Posts:
    262
    vCash:
    1860
    Thanks / No Thanks
    I thought he did alright relative to expectations. I know with rookies being more successful than ever it's reasonable to expect more out of him, but I'm not feeling too bad about the pick right now. I was jealous of what I saw from Kelechi Osemele in the Super Bowl, though.
    Quote Quote  

  3. -33
    Chubby's Avatar
    SUPERFAN

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    May 2002
    Posts:
    6,676
    vCash:
    3187
    Loc:
    Homestead, FL.
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Halo Legendary
Gift received at 06-10-2014, 02:54 AM from DisturbedShifty
Message: Here ya go man.  In the future things like this are in the vShopXbox Logo
Gift received at 04-30-2014, 02:53 PM from DisturbedShifty
    He does need to put on some muscle mass
    FINS OR DIE!!!!!!

    Want-Goodell to be Impeached.
    Follow me on on Twitter www.twitter.com/FinFanChubby

    In psychology, Stockholm Syndrome is an apparently paradoxical psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. "[6]
    Quote Quote  

  4. -34
    Starter

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Sep 2004
    Posts:
    2,571
    vCash:
    8935
    Thanks / No Thanks
    IIRC, Martin came out as a junior and just needs to get stronger. I like his potential.
    Quote Quote  

  5. -35
    gdiaz0358's Avatar
    Rookie

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    May 2007
    Posts:
    1,252
    vCash:
    2087
    Loc:
    Miami
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Considering ALL reports prior to us drafting Martin said he needed to bulk up, work on his strength, and technique means we were expecting him to take time to develop. A lot higher rated Olinmen that were taken before him have done worse than he has, and although I dont have numbers I do know he still has time to get it together. Is he going to be the next Jake Long? No! But we dont need him to be Jake Long good, we just need him to hold his own, we dont need all probowlers across the Oline.
    Quote Quote  

  6. -36
    utahphinsfan's Avatar
    it is what it is

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Jan 2005
    Posts:
    5,897
    vCash:
    13455
    Loc:
    Justice League Watchtower
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Blog Entries:
    2
    Yes, because JM came in and was not a unanimous all star then he must be a bust?

    Martin does need to improve. However, given this coaching staff and that kids from Stanford are quite sharp then I will hold reservation on Martin's career outlook for awhile.

    There is more pressure IMO on Bob Griffin just maintain playing at a high level than there is for Martin to improve.
    Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers. - Voltaire









    Quote Quote  

  7. -37
    Waterlogged

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    May 2006
    Posts:
    4,316
    vCash:
    1000
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Man the manure is deep on this site.

    Struggled a little you say???????

    Oh he'll get it together?????

    And then you accuse me of being subjective.

    Fact is he finished the year ranked in the seventies amongst NFL tackles. That means several backup OT's who saw significant playing time played better than him.

    If he had finished anywhere in the top 64 I'd be inclined to share some optimism, but he didn't. Martin is just plain awful. He can't pass protect on the outside and he isn't a powerful run blocker.

    Best case scenario IMO is that he is moved to OG and eventually get's stronger.

    I used to post the same kind of realistic posts about Chad Henne and I got the same kind of absurd reactions.

    I'm not anti team. I'm just saying that all the confidence being displayed on this site is really unfounded.

    The Dolphins are anything but set at OT. This team may need to add 3 OT's this offseason if it actually wants to be solid at the position.

    Yeatman,Adams, and McDonald are all late round or undraffted guys who are untested.

    The Dolphins might not have any starting caliber or even backup caliber OT's on their roster, although I like Jeff Adams' potential.

    The situation is pathetic.

    I saw that nobody was able to offer any suggestions on what make the situation better.

    Cowards!
    Quote Quote  

  8. -38
    CalDolFan1014's Avatar
    BELIEVE

    Status:
    Online
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Sep 2004
    Posts:
    13,226
    vCash:
    1493
    Loc:
    The Golden State
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Trophies
    1972 Dolphins LogoSnakes!Cam Wake 91Tannehill 17
    You really expect anyone to take you seriously when you insult anyone with an opinion on these boards??? You're digging your own grave as far as your credibility is concerned. Com'on now.

    Not everyone is going to agree with you here...that's just the nature of a site with tens of thousands of members.No need to insult the members' intelligence and then call them cowards when they happen to disagree with you.
    I just try to be myself, whatever that is. I don't think about how I'll be remembered. I just want to be consistent over a long period of time. That's what the great players do.
    -Dan Marino
    Quote Quote  

  9. -39
    Pro Bowler

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Apr 2012
    Posts:
    1,400
    vCash:
    28768
    Loc:
    Aurora Il
    Thanks / No Thanks
    I was really getting on the Martin bandwagon until that Patriots game at the end there. He got embarrassed and Miami really had no chance to do anything on offense because of the pressure he was giving up on almost every play. He's just so easy to bull-rush and his foot-quickness offers nothing when there's just zero leverage he can use.
    When you're watching the draft and they start going '+/- on every player and every negative against Martin that was highlighted was what we saw from him this year. I really am far from convinced that he is an NFL player. It's not just size, either. Smaller players have become much better players than what he showed.
    If he is a tackle for us next year, we will not eclipse 7 wins no matter what else we do this offseason.

    ---------- Post added at 03:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:28 PM ----------

    Also, that game against the Colts was really where the bottom dropped out on our season, and his play in the game went a long way towards facilitating our failure.
    Quote Quote  

  10. -40
    Waterlogged

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    May 2006
    Posts:
    4,316
    vCash:
    1000
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by CalDolFan10x14 View Post
    You really expect anyone to take you seriously when you insult anyone with an opinion on these boards??? You're digging your own grave as far as your credibility is concerned. Com'on now.

    Not everyone is going to agree with you here...that's just the nature of a site with tens of thousands of members.No need to insult the members' intelligence and then call them cowards when they happen to disagree with you.
    I didn't call anyone a coward for disagreeing. Far from it. I called everyone a coward for not offering an answer for what could be done about improving the Dolphins OT situation which is what the thread was supposed to be about.

    I'm fine with getting bashed. It happened with Ronnie Brown, Chad Henne, and Kaepernick for two years on the draft forum. In the end, I'm always right and nobody ever apologies for their bashing when reality plays out.

    The ironic thing is that I get obvious personal attacks and I'm the one the mods warn about being pugnacious when I never attack anyone personally.

    I used the words cowards, because no stepped up and actually offered a solution to the OT problem other than Martin needs to lift more weights.

    As far as my credibility shouldn't it be based on content, rather than style?

    If I'm wrong about Martin I'll admit it. I was wrong to support the drafting of Pat White and I openly admitted it. I didn't want him in the 2nd round but, whatever.
    Quote Quote  

Similar Threads

  1. Jonathan Martin
    By PolitePolite in forum Miami Dolphins Forum
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 10-01-2012, 12:24 PM
  2. Jonathan Martin sucks.
    By lbsfinest in forum The Depths of the Sea
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-24-2012, 09:43 PM
  3. jonathan martin
    By MarshallFin1 in forum Miami Dolphins Forum
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 08-19-2012, 07:17 AM
  4. Why isn't Jonathan Martin further along?
    By Fin Thirteen in forum SPAM
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-16-2012, 10:47 AM
  5. Finally a real starting caliber QB
    By dlockz in forum Miami Dolphins Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-15-2006, 06:00 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •