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Thread: States attempting to change voting rules for 2016 election

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    States attempting to change voting rules for 2016 election

    They just won't quit, will they? The New Castle News (where I get most of my information these days*) is reporting that Harrisburg legislative powerhouse Sen. Dominic Pileggi has yet another scheme in which Pennsylvania would award a number of electoral votes to the losing candidate under a system not used in any of the other 49 states.

    As you may know, the losing candidate in every presidential election in Pennsylvania since 1988 has been a Republican. In 2012, President Obama got just under 52 percent of the popular vote and all 20 electoral votes. That's because Pennsylvania -- like 47 other states and D.C. -- awards those electoral votes on a winner-take-all basis. (Two smaller states -- Nebraska and Maine -- award some of their votes by individual congressional district.)

    At this particular quirky moment in American history, there are a surprising number of states that have Republican legislatures and governors but are trending solidly Democratic for president, including Wisconsin, Michigan, Virginia, Florida...and Pennsylvania. As if by magic, lawmakers in each of these states showed up for the new year with schemes to pick presidential electors on a variation of the Maine-Nebraska method. Because the Democratic vote has been so overwhelming in some urban congressional districts, with the Republicans winning more suburban and rural districts by by smaller margins, the swing in electoral votes could be dramatic.
    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/a...-election.html

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    We need to move to popular vote and be done with it. That would stop all this shady business real quick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    We need to move to popular vote and be done with it. That would stop all this shady business real quick...
    Didn't you hear the founding fathers were Gods and the Constitution a work of unimpeachable perfection? Shame on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    We need to move to popular vote and be done with it. That would stop all this shady business real quick...
    They really do. No more "Swing states" Everyone's vote counts as it should.
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    "We should move to popular vote" is brilliant ...

    "We should award electoral college votes in proportion to popular vote" gets a face palm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoFins! View Post
    "We should award electoral college votes in proportion to popular vote" gets a face palm.
    The only way that would be a fair solution is if we did it in all 50 states. Not just selectively implementing it in notoriously blue states and certainly not with the new jerry mandered districts that have been implemented by the GOP. A more just solution though is to just go with the popular vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    Didn't you hear the founding fathers were Gods and the Constitution a work of unimpeachable perfection? Shame on you.
    Didn't you hear? Those jackasses and scoundrels left you ways to change things, just in case you didnt like what they gave you. But then, it is easier to bitch and belittle than it is to actually take a stand


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    Quote Originally Posted by LandShark13 View Post
    The only way that would be a fair solution is if we did it in all 50 states. Not just selectively implementing it in notoriously blue states and certainly not with the new jerry mandered districts that have been implemented by the GOP. A more just solution though is to just go with the popular vote.
    Which would require a federal law. It would be the easy and intelligent thing to do, just make all the rules the same.

    Under Bush that wouldnt be a problem. Under Obama its the first steps towards totalitarian rule. So its going to require a Republican in office just to get it passed. Then again, at that point, the GOP wont see why they need to pass the bill at all.
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    I love how people think just switching to a popular vote is the fix for everything. You all skip 2 major points.

    1) Middle America will be pissed because their voices wont weigh the same as populated metropolitan centers. Their agendas wont advance (not an alltogether bad thing from my standpoint. Im all for cleaning up subsidies)

    2) Why does it matter? As long as we limit ourselves to two parties, were always going to elect someone beholden to the special interest groups and lobbies, and not to US
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoFinz View Post
    I love how people think just switching to a popular vote is the fix for everything. You all skip 2 major points.

    1) Middle America will be pissed because their voices wont weigh the same as populated metropolitan centers. Their agendas wont advance (not an alltogether bad thing from my standpoint. Im all for cleaning up subsidies)

    2) Why does it matter? As long as we limit ourselves to two parties, were always going to elect someone beholden to the special interest groups and lobbies, and not to US
    Keep the electorial college. Just have the federal government make the rules the same for every state. Rigging the system (like the GOP has tried to do for over a year and plans to continue attempting for the next 4 years) hurts everyone, no matter what their political leanings are.

    Again, totalitarian rule, etc etc etc.
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