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Thread: Sentinel: Fins spending nearly 2X on Defense

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    News2 Sentinel: Fins spending nearly 2X on Defense

    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/201...ryan-tannehill

    Interesting little read here.

    Sean Smith and Randy Starks are both noticeably missing from this list. There's talk at the end of the article that the team will spend FA money this year improving the offense , while drafting defense to get younger and cheaper. I figured we would lose either Smith or Starks (preferably Smith IMO), but this sounds like we are losing both of them. Maybe they left them off because they are going with people who are already on the books for next year? Like I said before, interesting read.
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    My thinking has always been to secure the tight end/wr position in free agency and draft defense. Let's say you sign Mike Wallace/Jared Cook this gives you the ability to draft the best defensive player available. Even if they go receiver first, they should focus on the defense.

    Dansby/Dimitri P/Kevin Burnett/Richard Marshall are all making way too much.
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    I kinda believe this might be fairly accurate. Free Agency is where we can get proven weapons for the near-term....then build the defense through the draft...it will cost us less, and we're strongest there now ! This is a better approach than a shotgun approach !
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    The flaw in the thinking of this article is that simply following the money is not the be all end all of figuring out where the team will go in the draft. The opinion of "they are paying people on defense, so that means they will likely draft to get younger on defense" only makes sense if all of our holes on offense are filled with cheap, long term solutions...which it is not. Our O line is in shambles, the wr core is nonexistent and we have no number 1 tight end. If a good offensive option is there in the draft, the team will draft them...no "higher level thinking" should prove otherwise.

    Classic example of an article that expounds on numbers without a true understanding of what is behind them. The solutions to the holes on this team are based on the PEOPLE available in free agency and the draft, not some master plan that is started before the Dolphins even find out who is available and at what price tag.

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    I would trade Dansby and draft a replacement. 8.5 mil for him? That's inexcusable.

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    Re: Sentinel: Fins spending nearly 2X on Defense

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    I would trade Dansby and draft a replacement. 8.5 mil for him? That's inexcusable.
    8.5 million for one of the best linebackers in the league who is the leader of our defence and is playing great is fine.

    Dansby is constantly underappreciated on this forum.
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    Noticed a lack of Jake Long salary on there. Count that and the numbers get closer together. Not to mention one thing everyone tends to forget: we are not paying a franchise quarterback salary. In 2 years time, our "offensive salary" is going to explode.

    Anyways, how in the hell is Richard Marshall one of our top paid defensive players? And how is Incognito our top paid offensive player? $11 million for those two players. Anyone wondering how we got into cap hell last offseason, this is where it starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia411 View Post
    I would trade Dansby and draft a replacement. 8.5 mil for him? That's inexcusable.
    Of all the numbers i saw in that article, Dansby was the one i had the least problems with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uk_dolfan View Post
    8.5 million for one of the best linebackers in the league who is the leader of our defence and is playing great is fine.

    Dansby is constantly underappreciated on this forum.
    I don't see Dansby as being that great. We're always getting smoked by tight ends over the middle and runningbacks out of the backfield, largely thanks to Dansby's lack of coverage skills.
    He's a good linebacker, but he's certainly replaceable, and I'd much rather allocate big $$ to pass rushers/ coverage guys on defense anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia411 View Post
    I don't see Dansby as being that great. We're always getting smoked by tight ends over the middle and runningbacks out of the backfield, largely thanks to Dansby's lack of coverage skills.
    He's a good linebacker, but he's certainly replaceable, and I'd much rather allocate big $$ to pass rushers/ coverage guys on defense anyway.
    Thats just not true. Dansby is actually one of the better cover LB's in the league.
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    I've been saying for a while that we will likely be rebuilding the LB corps next offseason. The reason is that Dansby and Burnett are likely playing their last big years with us in 2013. They are nearing the end of their big money FA contracts and underperforming them IMHO. This is why I've had 1 or 2 LB's in every mock draft I've I've made this year. We will likely add 1 DL player (likely a DE) and either let Starks walk or trade Odrick. Tony McDaniel will be let go as well. With the Vontae trade and Smith's ultra-high price tag, we'll definitely need at least 1 starting CB. Coupled with our need for 2-3 WR's and at least 1 guy at OL, TE, and RB this offseason ... I think we'll wait until next offseason to rebuild the LB corps.

    Remember, these numbers represent 1) $0 for FA's like Long, Bush, Starks, Smith, Hartline, Fasano, Clemons, who prior to this season would almost all have made those lists and are all likely to make them this year or with another team, and 2) the natural salary cap curve of good players coming from their low rookie contracts to the natural and expected much higher 2nd contracts. Guys like Pouncey, Jones and Tannehill will command faaaaaaaaar higher salaries when they reach their 2nd contracts. Our free cap space is artificially inflated by players overperforming their rookie contracts ... which will change. So, it might be best to consider this top 7 on each side of the ball as a top 10 but with the remaining 3 contracts yet to be written. Surely we'll sign a LT. Surely we'll sign a FA WR. Surely the #12 overall pick makes this list, probably on offense. Surely we'll draft or sign RB and TE. Surely we'll sign at least 1 CB, maybe 2.

    These salaries also give us a good insight into the draft policy for the Dolphins. With at least 2 LB's needing to be replaced by 2014 and zero depth behind them, we'll almost certainly bring in a young draftee to groom. The DB situation has too many holes, not enough talent, and not nearly enough takeaways to remain in tact. So we will definitely draft at least 1 CB out of those 5 picks in the first 3 rounds. Given our tremendous dearth of talent and speed at WR, it's fair to assume we will bring in 1 veteran FA and 2 WR's through the draft, with at least 1 of those WR draftees being in the first couple of rounds. If we don't sign Long or another LT in FA, we'll almost certainly have to draft a LT at #12. Letting Bush go we'll likely draft a mid-round replacement and promote Miller ... but what makes people think we'll keep the multiple-concussion power back Daniel Thomas? Given the high price and poor production of our guards, we will have to bring in at least 1 G for competition.

    So looking at it, that's a draft that will include: 1 LB, 1 CB, 2 WR, 1 LT, 1 RB, 1 G. That's 7 of our 9 draft spots almost pre-determined. Sure, we could keep Thomas and add a cheap RB; re-sign Long and delay a new G for a year, but even doing all that we're at 4 of 9 draft picks being at pre-determined positions--2 WR, 1 CB, 1 LB.
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