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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    Even though he had a rough combine, he's still a top 10 pick. I've watched a TON of tape on him, and his combine results don't add up to when he steps on the field. When he's on the field, he's relentless, he just needs to learn how to wrap up tackle more. Also, keep in mind, he's only 20 years old as well, 21 in September, I'm 20, 21 in June and I know I'd be nervous in front of all these scouts, he'll be fine.
    He wasn't even a top 10 pick before his awful combine. He'll be lucky to be picked in the first round
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spesh View Post
    Drafting for need almost always leads to failure. Just because something isnt a hole today(and Defensive End is actually a hole for us now) doesnt mean it wont be tommorow. Solid receivers can be found in the second or third round, the only way a defensive end falls is if he is a flawed player. Not to mention good wideouts hit free agency more often than good pass rushers.

    We know have a franchise quarterback. With such a quarterback, we shouldnt be picking high in the draft anytime soon. We need to take the chance we are given to shore up a critical position for years to come. Wideout can be filled in free agency or in the second round. Our pass rush cant.
    Well a area we both agree on great and I predict that Ireland will go that position in the draft. We will see how many of our free agent we resign first.
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    Re: Only DE's worth #12 pick

    Quote Originally Posted by dcnr226 View Post
    The scary thing about Bjoern Werner is that he hasn't even been playing football for that long. He's just starting to get the hang of it.
    Five years total...we would be idiots not to draft him if he falls to 12. He has tremendous upside and is a beast. This crap I keep hearing about this one or that one being better than Werner is straight up ignorance. He is the best 4/3 DE in this class hands down and won't last until the 12th pick.
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    Re: Only DE's worth #12 pick

    Werner is also very disciplined, just check out the Orange Bowl to see what I mean. They had him contain the NIU QB all day rather than over pursue. It seemed to have worked out pretty well.
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    we should take mingo if he gets to us and plug him as a situational rusher opposite wake on passing downs in a 3 point stance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Etuoo33 View Post
    Werner got owned by the RT for the Canes. Pass in the 1st. Mingo is only 240# and may be too small for a DE?
    Is this really your thoughts from watching the tape? Or are you saying it b/c Mayock did?

    While the Miami game wasn't Werner's best and Henderson did get the best of him at times, Werner still had his moments. He ran the arc well a few times to rush Morris into a throw and did get into the backfield a few times on Morris. He was also chipped quite a bit and even dropped in coverage. I would gladly take Werner at 12. He has a GREAT first step, evident not only on tape but by his 10 yard time during his 40. He also has good feet. You saw that today during the movement drills and you can see that on tape b/c he's really good at defending the read option. As for his motor, it's fine. Does he not always run down every single play? Yes. But if you watch enough football, you'll see a lot of Dlinemen doing that to conserve energy so they don't gas too quickly and have something left in the tank for the next play since most Dlinemen aren't going to be running down RBs and WRs from behind. I personally hate it, but it's common. His motor on most plays is better than most. He never gives up on a pass rush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanfin View Post
    Ezekiel Ansah BYU
    Dion Jordan Oregon
    I don't even consider Jordan a DE. The guy is pretty thin and way too small at this point to play DE, other than a situational pass rusher who also plays OLB on 1st and 2nd down. And i'm not sure if his body is built to carry enough weight to make a full-time transition to DE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miamiron View Post
    Kid?? He's going to be 26 when the season starts
    He's in better shape than most of the "kids" though. Completely mechanically and kinesiologically sound and his body hasn't taken the beating that the rest of them have.
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    Dude is funny. humble. god fearing.

    He said he wants to prove everybody wrong. It wasnt that he said it, it was more that deep eyes humble african look he gave ya after he said it. Its gonna happen.
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    jordans a 34 olb all the way...needs to play standing up...as for damontre moore no ones taking a 250 lb de that runs 4.9 and does 12 reps at 225 in the top 10...NO ONE

    ansah is the big beneficiary after today...dion jordan even with the shoulder someone will pull the trigger very high maybe top 10 even...they're all drooling about his movement skills and upside...and he's one of the few edge rush prospects that has a very high end get off
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