Terrorist attack count against the Anything Goes Thread: 5
FYI just because someone wants to be positive doesn't imply they do not employ logic or they lack the ability to understand what is going on based on the facts. Make no mistake about it, if the positive stretch the facts to conform to their POV, the so called negative do the same.
There was most certainly a split on drafting Ryan Tannehill on this board. But lets not turn this into a the Irelandhate crowd didnt want him, because thats a bunch of bull. For most of us who have been critical of Ireland, and the Dolphins management as a whole, it has centered around not sacking up and drafting an elite quarterback prospect. Lo and behold after years of the "you dont need to draft a QB high, Jake Long was the right pick, you will see in the end!" crap.... we finally draft a qb highly and all of the sudden those voices have just slowly died away.
Sparano pounding the tables for? So let me get this straight.... Parcells had final say... Ireland was just puppet there to get him coffee, but he was ALSO drafting crappy players for Tony Sparano who was vehemently in the ears of the front office to get guys he wanted to draft? Which one is it... either Ireland actually was involved, or he wasnt. Also, anybody have any shred of proof or evidence that Sparano had even the least bit of input in who we drafted? I thought we FINALLY had a coach who was involved in player personnel decisions and thats the difference? Can't keep all these shuffling stories straight.
Most people didnt want Philbin? Now here we go again. I remember a small contingent who really wanted Jeff Fischer (hayden was driving that bandwagon)... but I don't seem to recall any hate or animosity and especially not "most of us" not wanting Philbin.
The old "we were so close" if only we had won 3 more games we would be in the playoffs! if only we didnt miss all those Field Goals.... newsflash.. best kicker in the league last year missed 2 FG's against us against St Louis... but that little tidbit gets swept under the rug. Its the funniest argument out there, its the NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE, most games are decided down to the wire, and every team has a woulda coulda shoulda story every year.... funny how ours always end up with a losing record though.
Nobody disputes the Pouncey wasn't a great pick. He is one of the best centers in the league. But for the love of god, there is a concept of value. It was the safe move... it absolutely worked out... but look how that has worked out for him in the past. There was no top level talent at 12... with Earl Thomas and JPP staring at him... lets slide down and take 2 safe players. That worked out great.....
REALITY. my favorite word. every year is the turning point isnt it? next year we will get over the hump. look how easy our schedule is NEXT year.... Tom Brady is one year older NEXT year.
Reality is.... the future might be brighter. Looks like we finally have a QB. Schedule looks brutal next year. There usually is some regression in quarterbacks in their second year. But for the love of god, at least look in the rear view mirror and accept that there is a wake of destruction behind it. The "oranges" were right. again. It might be brighter next year. But at least accept what has already occurred.
And actually, fans do have an impact our the franchise. We dont have to attend games and we dont have to publically support the franchise. The owners arent stupid, they understand when something isnt acceptable. They dont like seeing an empty stadium. If their product isnt as popular as their competitors, some take it personally. I like Ross because he does seem to care. For most franchise losing brings about changes. For ours that doesnt seem to be the case, but Ross does seem to comprehend fan outrage.
No where im my post did i suggest that people having a positive outlook never use logic or have facts on their side. I stated that for a specific type of behavior, though even then those individuals often have facts on their side...or at least occasionally. In the case of Ireland and the Dolphins, the facts are overwhelmingly against those individuals. Yet, there are still some on here who believe Ireland has done nothing wrong ever in his life. Even when presented with facts their opinion wont budge(and they often get angry and vengeful), thus crossing the line from "positive outlook" to "denying reality".
You lose all credibility with what you stated above. This team didn't stink. They were purged of all bad influence, yes a lot of that bad influence happen to be good talent, but in the interests of putting together a possible dynasty this front office decided to do it right. In the meanwhile the players gave a admirable effort. Even though some were ill-equipped to play schemes. Because of last year's sacrifices, this team is in an enviable position in both free agency and the draft. Still, Rome was not built in one season. The pushback comes from your playoff ultimatum. I can think of 100 reasons why we don't make the playoffs that don't include poor decisions from the GM. People like you take hindsight and act like It is divine knowledge.
i cant believe that ross didnt firer jeff and will give him a chance to screw up these good draft picks and as far as free agents they dont like jeff and they dont want to play for him jeff is the worse gm and ross really dont care what the fan say or think but it will hurt him because the fan have had enough and they will not come to the games you will see and then andonly then will he do something about the screw up that jeff really is just cant believe he let v/d go what a jurk