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Thread: Slimm's 2013 Position Rankings

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    Just for giggles, if you had to name five players you can realistically see being around at #12, while being satisfied with the selection: who would they be?
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    Tank Carradine is a fantastic player. That's why like 6 weeks ago I was saying he needs to be on Miami's short list for the 12th overall pick.

    Would I rank him above Werner? No. Would I rank him above every other defensive end prospect in the Draft? Yes.
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    ireland doesn't have the leash to take carradine at #12...it's possible carradine may not even suit up in 2013 for ya...he definitely won't be 100 percent if he does...

    fully healthy i got no problem with it but off an acl and likely to not be ready for full contact once camp opens i don't think ireland would do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooshoops View Post
    ireland doesn't have the leash to take carradine at #12...it's possible carradine may not even suit up in 2013 for ya...he definitely won't be 100 percent if he does...

    fully healthy i got no problem with it but off an acl and likely to not be ready for full contact once camp opens i don't think ireland would do it
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ShOyx0kZ9Y

    He plans to do some drills on the 19, and he plans to do full workouts the week before the draft.
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    His rehab is ahead of the curve and he's probably going to work out at FSU's pro day. He'll be ready to go by September, although being at 100% would be pretty incredible.

    I think he faced better offensive tackles than his teammate Werner, and it looked to me like Werner got the clean up sacks as quarterbacks were trying to get away from Carradine coming off their blind side. He was the guy that teams focused the majority of their double team and chipping efforts towards.

    No matter where he's drafted, whether it's #1 overall or the 2nd round... I think he's probably going to end up the best defensive end from this draft. There's no question he was the best one I saw on the field in college football along with Clowney before he got hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-off-her-doll View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ShOyx0kZ9Y

    He plans to do some drills on the 19, and he plans to do full workouts the week before the draft.
    workouts and full contact two different things...i'd say odds he's a full go come training camp 50/50
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    I've heard a number assigned to where he is with his rehab saying he's about 1 month ahead of where you would normally expect a guy to be. The fact that he'll be able to hold a workout in April is testament to that.

    I'd say he's probably on about Ryan Broyles' timeline rather than Jonas Gray's. Broyles was playing by Week 3 and taking a heavy workload by Week 7. The only thing that prevented him from taking a total of about 600 to 650 snaps this year (which is where he was trending) is the fact that he tore his OTHER ACL (real bad luck, there).

    So I would think that would be a valid estimate for Tank Carradine...600 to 700 snaps in his rookie season. That's plenty. That's 1st round plenty.
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    And there's no denying that Carradine went against better tackles than Werner. Carradine played against left tackles while Werner played against right tackles. Carradine faced Xavier Nixon. Werner faced Cornell Green. There's a difference.

    On the other hand, there's also no denying that Carradine was allowed by the scheme and the position responsibilities to get after the passer more freely than Werner.

    One of the reasons I've got such a crush on Devin Taylor post-Shrine week is I saw him playing consistently on the right side with streamlined responsibilities and less hesitation, and he was an absolute beast. I think he'll be better in Miami as a right end than he was as a college left end.

    When I've seen Werner flip over to that side, I've seen him rush the passer even better than he did at left end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    And there's no denying that Carradine went against better tackles than Werner. Carradine played against left tackles while Werner played against right tackles. Carradine faced Xavier Nixon. Werner faced Cornell Green. There's a difference.

    On the other hand, there's also no denying that Carradine was allowed by the scheme and the position responsibilities to get after the passer more freely than Werner.

    One of the reasons I've got such a crush on Devin Taylor post-Shrine week is I saw him playing consistently on the right side with streamlined responsibilities and less hesitation, and he was an absolute beast. I think he'll be better in Miami as a right end than he was as a college left end.

    When I've seen Werner flip over to that side, I've seen him rush the passer even better than he did at left end.
    Totally agree. I've watched a lot of tape on Werner and when he flanked wide against right tackles in pure rush mode or rushed against left tackles, he did very well. But many times against right tackles he would line up just outside their shoulder and take them on, watching for the zone read plays or runs, keep the tackle at arms length. Against the left tackles, he would just blow right upfield and not worry about contain as much.....Carradine would do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooshoops View Post
    i swear psu that you should be a guru...this guy knows how to rate talent folks...in the event i ever get a job which i've already had convos with my wife about pursuing it i'm coming to get ya...
    Haha....well if you ever pursue that job, you come find me. I'm in. I've been trying to find my way into the business for years.
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