http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=7031691&wjbBut the Dolphins look doomed, not unlike a trade the team nearly completed this summer. Just when the Dolphins were about to trade a fourth-round pick to the Broncos for quarterback Kyle Orton in August, Dolphins owner Stephen Ross declined to pay the three-year, $27 million extension that the quarterback and Miami already had agreed to, league sources said. When Ross declined to pay Orton, the deal blew up. Now Miami's season almost has.
Flynn signed a $26 million($10 million guaranteed), 3 year deal with Seattle. Instead of the $8 million or so Seattle offered him, at the time it was reported we offered something around $6.5 million per season. We "low-balled" him because we felt he wanted to play for Philbin more than he wanted an immediate high contract. And yes, i consider $6 million to be a hefty contract. Heres a link about the story, albeit with no final contract number. And im absolutely not digging through a year of Jason Cole tweets looking for the number. Take my $6 million for a grain of salt if you want.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...to-matt-flynn/Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports that the Miami Dolphins are “low-balling” free agent quarterback Matt Flynn in contract negotiations. The Dolphins’ thinking is apparently that Flynn wants so badly to play for head coach Joe Philbin, his offensive coordinator in Green Bay, that Flynn might be willing to settle for significantly less than market value.
Either way, if this player was just so darned god awful, so bad he was benched, so not worth the contract he was given...why did Miami bring him in and try and sign him at all?
Die hard Dolphins and Devils fan.
However, if Philbin wanted Flynn for more than a stopgap, he wouldn't have offered him backup money. It's likely that as payback for Flynn being a good soldier for Philbin in GB, they went through the motions of extending him an offer so Seattle wouldn't think they were the only one who wanted him. I wouldn't doubt that for the same reason, they candidly told Flynn that they were drafting Tannehill with an eye toward the future.
I don't give Ireland too much credit for passing on Kolb for a 2nd rounder.. even Rick Spielman wouldn't have bit on that one.
Wisdom from a "QB Whisperer::
"No we have our FRANCHISE QB and I want to keep him rather than get 2 guys who may or may not be productive NFL players.
Palmer's situation is different and if I had my choice between Palmer and buttfumble, I'd take buttfumble"
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/201...nse-chad-henneThe Dolphins began applying the full-court press on Flynn, who spent four years working under new coach Joe Philbin in Green Bay, after Manning turned down the team's advances Thursday. The Seahawks hosted Flynn on a visit earlier this week, but he left without signing a contract and arrived in South Florida on Saturday morning.
Sources say both sides hope to finalize terms on a contract that could make Aaron Rodgers' former backup quarterback Miami's next starter.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/27/joe-philbin-ask-matt-flynn-why-hes-in-seattle/Joe Philbin doesn’t like the perception that the Dolphins didn’t aggressively pursue free agent quarterback Matt Flynn.
Philbin, the Dolphins head coach who spent the last four years coaching Flynn in Green Bay, was asked by a reporter today why he didn’t pursue Flynn as aggressively as many people thought they would. And Philbin said people who think the Dolphins didn’t pursue Flynn aggressively are wrong.
Anyways, i'll agree that we should be extremely thankful that Ross stepped in on Orton and that Ireland shouldnt get credit for not trading for Kolb.
But if Ireland was influenced by Sparano to trade for Orton, then thats still on Ireland. Tony Sparano is a coach, not a scout. Its Irelands job to shut down horrible trades. Thankfully for us, Ross did his job for him.
I can't wait for all the articles to get out of the way and for free agency to start. Hopefully this is the year that we make a big splash.
This forum swings to the extremes. People love to boast and crow about anything we do. Its why a select number of poster expect 7th round draft picks to become studs. Its why threads were started about how we STOLE from the Colts in the Vontae trade. Its not enough that we get a good player or deal, its that we have to humiliate everyone else. We have to prove to be smarter and better and etc, etc, etc. I get it, its human nature. I just find it amusingly shortsighted when it comes to our history.
If people want to say Ireland deserves credit for bringing in as much "talent" at the quarterback positions as possible, then fair enough. Id even agree with that, as i felt we should double or triple up on the position(still do). But you cant also talk about how brilliant Ireland was(or how he completely pegged the market on Flynn, or any other game of semantics people are playing) for passing on some player who "was awful". We tried to sign him. We tried hard to sign him and revisionist history wont change that.
There is no revisionist history going on. Once again, Flynn was not viewed by anyone as god awful when Ireland tried to sign him. The fact that Flynn was beat out for the starting job in Seattle by Wilson does not make him god awful or anything else.
Yes Flynn was brought in. Yes Flynn was offered a contract the Ireland felt he was worth and Flynn decided to go elsewhere. If Ireland doesn't get credit for sticking to his guns, then who does?