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Thread: Insightful Dolphins Quote from Mike Tanier's Mock Draft

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    You can't continue to resign players, the costs become prohibitive, if they only get you to .500. You need stars, Long used to be one, maybe he can be one again if healthy. But not signing Sean Smith when you upgrade through the draft makes sense.
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    starks is making a fine salary of 8.5mil for a guy who stays on field all 3 owns and went to the probowl. hartline is a valuable wideout and he got12 mil guaranteed over 5 years... cmon... hes either getting it all up front so they can cut him penalty free any time or theyre backloading all the money so he never sees the other 18 mil of that contract. matt moore is a borderline starter who can win when he comes him, that's invaluable, and his contract is irrelevant, you have to look at the total money we pay to that position and its still half of what other teams pay to just their starters
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    Well free agency hasn't begun yet so we really haven't had the opportunity to improve ourselves yet this off season.
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    Jesus christ people you like to bitch a lot. FA has not even started yet and you are complaining. Teams are re signing their own players now. It doesn't mean they won't sign FA when they can. THEY CANNOT SIGN ANY FA YET!!!!! fricken relax!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by z926538 View Post
    http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/42347136

    Mike Tanier's mock draft discussion of the Dolphins contains an insightful quote:

    "Perhaps the Dolphins are stuck at .500 because they are always drafting to replace the outgoing players who kept them at .500."

    So far in free agency it appears that this is exactly what we are doing: resigning the same mediocre players who led us to a 7-9 record at higher salaries. We never improve ourselves -- we just keep staying the same.

    If this continues at least Ireland will be gone.
    That's a very insightful quote by Tanier, and you completely misunderstood it. What he's saying is that we should hold on to our veterans who are not great but not terrible -Sean Smith, Hartline, Clemons, Starks, Long, maybe Bush-, instead of letting that sort of middle-tier players walk year in and year and spend all our resources trying to replace them.
    Why so gloomy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by z926538 View Post
    http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/42347136

    Mike Tanier's mock draft discussion of the Dolphins contains an insightful quote:

    "Perhaps the Dolphins are stuck at .500 because they are always drafting to replace the outgoing players who kept them at .500."

    So far in free agency it appears that this is exactly what we are doing: resigning the same mediocre players who led us to a 7-9 record at higher salaries. We never improve ourselves -- we just keep staying the same.

    If this continues at least Ireland will be gone.
    This makes ZERO sense. This angle holds no water, since releasing Brandon Marshall and Vontae Davis, who weren't mediocre players, didn't change anything. Remember...way back when a guy named Jay Fiedler replaced Dan Marino and actually has the only successful run at QB besides maybe the short tenure of Chad Pennington....

    I believe that a culture in a football team, from coaching to leadership in the locker room, to the owner, are contributing factors to success....but what this dill weed fails to acknowledge in his point is that our 7-9 2012 campaign was a few missed kicks and a few first downs away from being an 11-5 season.

    Although I do agree we are in a transition phase still with the players on this team, I believe this team is on its way to being a strong contender in the AFC within the next couple years.

    So Fins Up, and thumbs down to this turd...
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    Perhaps I am misinterpreting the quote. I don't know.

    What I do know is that I like placing the tag on Starks but think we overpaid for Hartline and Moore. And at the end of the day, none of these moves improved the team one iota beyond where we were last year. And the only potential for improvement on any of these moves is if Hartline is moved to being the #2 WR where I still frankly think we overpaid for his talent. To hell with this perpetual mediocrity, I want to see moves that improve the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodleman View Post
    Jesus christ people you like to bitch a lot. FA has not even started yet and you are complaining. Teams are re signing their own players now. It doesn't mean they won't sign FA when they can. THEY CANNOT SIGN ANY FA YET!!!!! fricken relax!!!
    And they won't be able to sign the kinds of free agents who actually can improve the team if they blow their entire salary cap resigning the same players who led them to a 7-9 record. At some point we're going to have to let some mediocre players go so we can take a chance on improving the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z926538 View Post
    Perhaps I am misinterpreting the quote. I don't know.

    What I do know is that I like placing the tag on Starks but think we overpaid for Hartline and Moore. And at the end of the day, none of these moves improved the team one iota beyond where we were last year. And the only potential for improvement on any of these moves is if Hartline is moved to being the #2 WR where I still frankly think we overpaid for his talent. To hell with this perpetual mediocrity, I want to see moves that improve the team.
    Would you rather overpay for stability at a position, or underpay for instability?
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    Quote Originally Posted by z926538 View Post
    Perhaps I am misinterpreting the quote. I don't know.

    What I do know is that I like placing the tag on Starks but think we overpaid for Hartline and Moore. And at the end of the day, none of these moves improved the team one iota beyond where we were last year. And the only potential for improvement on any of these moves is if Hartline is moved to being the #2 WR where I still frankly think we overpaid for his talent. To hell with this perpetual mediocrity, I want to see moves that improve the team.
    Well you should at least wait til FA STARTS before bitching. Hartline got market value and his cap hit, from what I have read, is very dolphin friendly this year. Seriously dude at least let Miami go thru FA before complaining we didn't upgrade. Resigning Moore was a good move as he was the best qb on the market and, if you watch football,, you will realize that our back up qb will most likely play important snaps for the team. Open your eyes.
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