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Thread: Insightful Dolphins Quote from Mike Tanier's Mock Draft

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    meanwhile genius, the dolphins look great cap wise while the other half of the league is still trying to get more cap space and realeasing former probowlers/superbowl studs.

    latest about to happen is Boldin in Baltimore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marino2duper73 View Post
    Would you rather overpay for stability at a position, or underpay for instability?
    Great question! I guess my answer is that it depends on the situation. Let me use Jake Long as an example. It is clear after watching his production across five years that we overpaid for the stability at his position. He got first pick in the draft money but did not deliver first pick in the draft results in the win-loss column. So in that case I would say get rid of Long, pay less for a less talented left tackle and use the left over money to improve other positions.

    Now the opposite approach is due the quarterback position. This position is so important in today's NFL that I would willing to overpay to keep someone who has franchise talent.

    I hope this answers the question. If not I can try to go into further detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z926538 View Post
    Perhaps I am misinterpreting the quote. I don't know.

    What I do know is that I like placing the tag on Starks but think we overpaid for Hartline and Moore. And at the end of the day, none of these moves improved the team one iota beyond where we were last year. And the only potential for improvement on any of these moves is if Hartline is moved to being the #2 WR where I still frankly think we overpaid for his talent. To hell with this perpetual mediocrity, I want to see moves that improve the team.
    You sound like a 5 year old in a a toy store, Mommy Mommy i want this I want that. The only team that may have improved themselves this early in the process is KC from a talent stand point. Christmas is in 3 days than the other 31 teams can open there peasants, to improve there teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsmack_42 View Post
    You sound like a 5 year old in a a toy store, Mommy Mommy i want this I want that. The only team that may have improved themselves this early in the process is KC from a talent stand point. Christmas is in 3 days than the other 31 teams can open there peasants, to improve there teams.
    We won't be able to improve ourselves if we spend all our cap money resigning the same players who led us to four straight losing seasons. Sometimes you have to step backwards in order to move forward along a different and better path.
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    This team has gone the high priced FA route before (Justin Smiley, Joey Porter, Daunte Culpepper) and this hasn't really elevated the team to the upper echelon level. Its a tricky situation and oftentimes requires a little bit of good fortune.
    If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z926538 View Post
    http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/42347136

    Mike Tanier's mock draft discussion of the Dolphins contains an insightful quote:

    "Perhaps the Dolphins are stuck at .500 because they are always drafting to replace the outgoing players who kept them at .500."

    So far in free agency it appears that this is exactly what we are doing: resigning the same mediocre players who led us to a 7-9 record at higher salaries. We never improve ourselves -- we just keep staying the same.

    If this continues at least Ireland will be gone.
    And thats why you're a rookie like your sig says..
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    Up until Tannehill was drafted I'd would agree with that quote to a degree. Tannehill has changed everything. Keeping the younger developed players to continue to grow and improve moving forward is now more essential than ever. And keeping your core players that are solid contributors is even more imperative with Tannehill on the team. He's the 1st POTENTIAL Franchise QB this organization has had since Dan Marino.
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    Dude has no te going in the first round hmmmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    Oh. So Randy Starks is a bum is what your saying. Same with a #2 WR in Hartline, and a solid backup QB in Matt Moore that mentors your young, potential franchise QB. Okay.

    No you're putting words in his mouth. All he is stating is that we were 7-9 last year, and looks like we're going to be keeping much of the same faces. So unless everyone ups their game markedly and the entire team improves all around from last year. We'll continue to be around and under .500 (like the past 4 seasons) and 7 out of the last 10 seasons (losing records).

    Not trash talking, just using logic.

    I'm a fan of Starks, he's a beast on the D-Line. I believe Hartline gets flack for not scoring a ton of TDs, when I know of 3-4 deep passes where B.H. got behind the secondary and T-Hill over threw him.

    Put Hartline against the #2 CBs consistently and have a #1 WR take the focus off him (plus another year with Tanny will only make them better) and you'll see a solid improvement.

    But the fact remains, you can't keep much of the same and expect huge/better results.

    Now IF/When we bring in guys like Wallace or Jennings, hopefully a TE or CB, and we fill needs in the draft, then we can say that this teams making the necessary moves in the right direction. But if we keep the same old same old, we can't expect a big jump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialk0832 View Post
    No you're putting words in his mouth. All he is stating is that we were 7-9 last year, and looks like we're going to be keeping much of the same faces. So unless everyone ups their game markedly and the entire team improves all around from last year. We'll continue to be around and under .500 (like the past 4 seasons) and 7 out of the last 10 seasons (losing records).

    Not trash talking, just using logic.

    I'm a fan of Starks, he's a beast on the D-Line. I believe Hartline gets flack for not scoring a ton of TDs, when I know of 3-4 deep passes where B.H. got behind the secondary and T-Hill over threw him.

    Put Hartline against the #2 CBs consistently and have a #1 WR take the focus off him (plus another year with Tanny will only make them better) and you'll see a solid improvement.

    But the fact remains, you can't keep much of the same and expect huge/better results.

    Now IF/When we bring in guys like Wallace or Jennings, hopefully a TE or CB, and when fill needs in the draft, then we can say that this teams making the necessary moves in the right direction. But if we keep the same old same old, we can't expect a big jump.
    SpecialK, thanks for making my main point much better than I did.
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