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    Quote Originally Posted by maralieus View Post
    That was pretty lame. History doesnt mean much. I hate it when people try to say that some player is going to perform this way or that way based on what some other people did before them. Just because some other players that played with Lexis were busts doesnt mean Ellerbe will be one. A lot of FA signings are also done with little thought as to the outcome. So many players are picked up in FA and thrown into terrible situations/ new schemes that dont fit their playing style. Personally I have faith that they know what they are doing. Seems to me Ireland is actually pretty good, he just had to get rid of Parcells mess first. just MHO.
    Hey! I am not knocking you for disagreeing with me at all. I understand your point too, something else i'm going to add to that is most players after they get paid they just slack off and aren't really hungry anymore. One thing you got to understand on my point of view that's all we can go by now and to start calling Ireland a genius or anything more. It is not safe to say that as of right now and we shouldn't be forgive Ireland just yet about all the F ups he's done in the past. Trust me I want Ellerbe to pan out and be a pro bowl player but he has to prove it. Thanks though for not being a little kid like most in this board
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman529 View Post
    I guess you didn't watch the Superbowl when he led the Ravens in tackles??? Or how he was probably the best player on defense while Ray was out??
    Do you know how hard it is for Ellerbe or anyone else to lead the Ravens in tackles????? Ray Lewis set a super bowl record with 11 JOPs!!!!!! (jump on piles)
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    Ellerbe most likely a bust

    The only question I have is: Is he better that Dansby was this past season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdz12250 View Post
    The only question I have is: Is he better that Dansby was this past season?
    I would think so.. Big Paul and Randy did a whole lot for Dansby..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman529 View Post
    I guess you didn't watch the Superbowl when he led the Ravens in tackles??? Or how he was probably the best player on defense while Ray was out??
    Michae Bolley was the leading tackler in the previous superbowl. people act like Dansby was crap this year and that was far from case. he actually played pretty well. I dont mind replacing Dansby with a better player , Im just not convinced Ellerbee is a better player

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanfin View Post
    I would think so.. Big Paul and Randy did a whole lot for Dansby..
    So Ngata doesnt impact thier linebacker play
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlockz View Post
    Michae Bolley was the leading tackler in the previous superbowl. people act like Dansby was crap this year and that was far from case. he actually played pretty well. I dont mind replacing Dansby with a better player , Im just not convinced Ellerbee is a better player

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    So Ngata doesnt impact thier linebacker play
    Yea Karlos did pretty well tackling but thats about it. We basically replaced Dansby with a younger player with the same production. People just don't understand how Ray Lewis makes everybody around him better. I am predicting now the Khruger, Bellerbe and Suggs will not have the same type of years that they had while playing with Lewis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dadecounty View Post
    Yea Karlos did pretty well tackling but thats about it. We basically replaced Dansby with a younger player with the same production. People just don't understand how Ray Lewis makes everybody around him better. I am predicting now the Khruger, Bellerbe and Suggs will not have the same type of years that they had while playing with Lewis.
    Again, you keep bringing up this Ray Lewis thing. Ellerbe played most of the season WITHOUT Ray Lewis, so it was Ellerbe who made Ellerbe better, period. And while Lewis is one of the greatest to ever play the game, he was a shell of his former self, and was more of an emotional lift to the team in the playoffs. Ellerbe was one of the brightest stars from the Ravens last season, and HIS play was why he was the Ravens top priority.
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    The truth is that we are lucky to get a linebacker of his skill in his prime, immediately after winning a Super Bowl. We are lucky that Baltimore was in a salary cap mess and couldn't afford to keep him. This guy was trained to be Ray Lewis' replacement.
    I have always been a Karlos Dansby fan. He has been a good player but is getting older and slower. Ellerbe is clearly viewed by Ireland and Philbin as an upgrade.
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    Re: Ellerbe most likely a bust

    Quote Originally Posted by Foe-Jarmer View Post
    when did i say he was going to be a stud? please point that out to me. i'm not "hoping" for anything buddy. I'm just saying, it's stupid to say he is going to suck because of the "history". Try using real stats and scouting reports to back up your opinions next time instead of going the weak route and saying "history dictates it". Grow up noob.
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