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Thread: Milliner VS Rhodes VS Werner VS Mingo VS Moore

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    GM Milliner VS Rhodes VS Werner VS Mingo VS Moore

    I think our first round pick will be one of these players. We would have to trade up for Milliner and I would sign Jake or Winston and sign Grimes and draft a pass rusher at #12. Out of Werner, Mingo, and Moore my favorite is Damontre Moore. Sherman knows him and coached him at A&M so we have inside info. He struggled at the combine with 12 bench reps but improved to 17 reps at his pro day. that isn't good but Jared Allen did 13. He also had 85 tackles which is great for a DE as well as 21 for a loss and 12.5 sacks. Werner would also be a good pick but I'm not sure if he will be there. I will post highlights below for everyone in the title.


    CB Dee Milliner Alabama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-p60qK_Mak

    CB Xavier Rhodes FSU: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jdhu0wefeA

    DE Bjoern Werner FSU: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydHxSVDR-fQ

    DE Barkevious Mingo LSU: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfpHtNY82EU

    DE Damontre Moore Texas A&M: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZdaYYF2S_g
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twitches Brew View Post
    Draft forum.
    ****, thought this was the draft forum.....
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    as this will get moved lemme put it this way...

    1.Dee Milner will be LONG gone

    2.Damontre Moore's stock has fallen to the point he won't be considered.

    3.While some love Mingo, A lot feel he's a strict 3-4 OLB

    So I'd say our pick is between Xavier Rhodes, Desmond Trufant, and Bjoern Werner
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChambersWI View Post
    as this will get moved lemme put it this way...

    1.Dee Milner will be LONG gone

    2.Damontre Moore's stock has fallen to the point he won't be considered.

    3.While some love Mingo, A lot feel he's a strict 3-4 OLB

    So I'd say our pick is between Xavier Rhodes, Desmond Trufant, and Bjoern Werner
    I think you are right.
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    I did say we would have to trade up for Milliner.........
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    I think Millner is the consensus BPA in that list, but Id rather take Jonathan Cooper at #12 if he is there over the other guys and on many boards he is. Having Pouncey and Cooper next to each other for the next 5 years would be amazing. Anyone who values O-Line play would love this idea. From that list ill take Xavier Rhodes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foozool13 View Post
    I think Millner is the consensus BPA in that list, but Id rather take Jonathan Cooper at #12 if he is there over the other guys and on many boards he is. Having Pouncey and Cooper next to each other for the next 5 years would be amazing. Anyone who values O-Line play would love this idea. From that list ill take Xavier Rhodes.
    I really like Kyle Long from Oregon. He can be had at #42. If not Barrett Jones from Alabama will be and he can play right guard also. We need to improve our pass defense
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanfin View Post
    I really like Kyle Long from Oregon. He can be had at #42. If not Barrett Jones from Alabama will be and he can play right guard also. We need to improve our pass defense
    Let me preface this by saying I haven't really watched anything on offensive tackles, I just have the data and found it interesting (not making any definitive statements). Here are the amount of pressures allowed by some of the top OT prospects:

    Luke Joeckel: 13 Pressures, 2 Sacks
    Lane Johnson: 14 Pressures, 2 Sacks
    Menelik Watson: 7 Pressures, 2 Sacks
    Kyle Long: 4 Pressures, 1 Sack

    Notable players that the OTs allowed pressures to:

    Joeckel: 2 to Lerente McCray, 2 to Sam Montgomery, 1 to Shariff Floyd
    Johnson: 1 to Alex Okafor
    Watson: 1 to James Gayle, 1 to Attachou
    Long: 1 to Ben Gardner

    Of course, offensive style, number of passes all come into play here. Those are just the raw data, do or don't do what you'd like with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUGap View Post
    Let me preface this by saying I haven't really watched anything on offensive tackles, I just have the data and found it interesting (not making any definitive statements). Here are the amount of pressures allowed by some of the top OT prospects:

    Luke Joeckel: 13 Pressures, 2 Sacks
    Lane Johnson: 14 Pressures, 2 Sacks
    Menelik Watson: 7 Pressures, 2 Sacks
    Kyle Long: 4 Pressures, 1 Sack

    Of course, offensive style, number of passes all come into play here. Those are just the raw data, do or don't do what you'd like with them.
    Kyle Long played some guard I can't remember how many starts there but I know he started there VS USC
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