And its a right. You have certain things you can do(or qualify for) if you are married as opposed to if your not married. Taxes, hospital visitation, benefits, etc. Those are "rights" that are denied to a group of people but allowed for others. According to the General Accounting Office for the Federal Government, "the gay" are denied 1,138 rights. Thats persecution.
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I was going to write out a detailed reply, but Spesh pretty much covered it. If I recall correctly fin, back when you made your last appearance here in the PoFo you were pretty anti-gay rights. If I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me. But if that's the case, I would assume it's due to religiosity, which means your mind is made up and no amount of debate will change your mind. I will simply say this is a topic you don't seem to understand very well, and most likely because you're a straight man with no gay friends...
All states have consanguinity restrictions on marriage. In something like 12 states first cousins can marry, and the rest they can't. How young one can marry also varies from state to state. Race is only not allowed as a basis for restriction because of the Constitution.I don't understand how marriage is a right. In my understanding, marriage is traditionally held to be a religious ceremony that the state may recognize as a special union and then confer special status upon that union supposing it meets certain well-defined qualifications, such as not being between siblings or persons of the same sex. A driver's license is similar. You apply and take an exam and upon passign the exam and paying a fee, you are granted the license to drive. You had to meet certain special conditions to obtain the priviledge.
Voting, free association, ownership of firearms and the like are rights. All citizens are born with full authority to exercise them once they reach legal age. Revoking them requires due process, i.e. a felony conviction. They cannot be revoked at the whim of the legislature.
Licensees can be affected by changing laws that modify the requirments for holding licenses. When the license expires in such circumstances, the licensee must meet the new requirements to continue exercising the privilege. Rights are not subject to such changing legislation. In the case of inter-racial marriage, laws proscribing it were held to be discriminatory on the basis of race. Laws that discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation have not yet been so widely struck down by the courts.
and i dont treat them any different when there in my house.
as far as marriage goes i think it all could be settled easily, give them the rights of married couples just call it something else and leave the church out of it