Cleveland is a dump full of dumpy people.
Jets suck, Bills suck, Patriots suck.
That may seem like long ago but we are 40 years removed. The Browns' most recent title was less than a decade earlier, 1964.
Eventually it blends, like college teams that count titles prior to the final polls being conducted after the bowl games. You could win a title then lose the bowl game.
Vince Lombardi certainly didn't become a legend based on Super Bowls, the '66 and '67 Packers. His legacy was cemented long before that, with 1962 considered his best team.
Anyway, I've been to that stadium, albeit for an exhibition game when it was brand new slightly more than a decade ago. It's a great location near the water but isn't really angled well so you can see the lake, or any type of nice view. Stupid compared to other examples, like Huskie Stadium. Everybody funnels out to the south, by necessity, because the lake is to the north, so exiting the stadium was a hassle. Overall it's a good basic design, certainly louder than ours. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is not far away, along with a science and industry museum that's mostly for kids.
That summer I toured Cincinnati, Cleveland and Columbus, because they were major cities I'd barely visited and didn't know anything about. I haven't been back to any of them, if that says anything. For some reason I'm more drawn to Saratoga.
I went two years ago and sat eight rows up from the field dolphins side and were great seats. Didn't have any problems during the game, but after was another story.
I will be going to Cleveland and Indy. Cleveland fans will give you crap about being a Dolphin fan the entire game. Indy fans won't say anything until after the game and only if they win. Happens every time. The Cleveland trip will cost me about 1/2 what the Indy trip will cost.
Get to Cleveland on Saturday and the night before you can catch a Mets-Indians game. Make it a total sports weekend
It's right on the lake, across from a jobsite I had once. It's pretty loud.
Stay in Westlake if you have to get a hotel.
the thought of somebody from florida going to that hell hole for a game is quite funny
1) Win the next game.
2) See goal #1
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The NEW Front Office Plan
for our Miami Dolphins:
-Hire the FH Staff, ad hoc.
... Could we really do worse?!?
(I'll accept the newly created position of beverage consultant)