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    Don't understand why so many people are wanting a TE?

    We need to shore up the OL and CB positions first and foremost. We have Dustin Keller and Charles Clay. We do not have a very good OL and it would be a shame if Ryan T was running for his life instead of having time to find Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Bess, Keller or Clay. That's SIX offensive skill receivers not including Matthews who I thought was fairly decent in his time last year. Only skill guy I take is Austin because he can score every single time he touches the ball. Other than that, I take 2 OL's and 2 CB's with our first 4 picks.
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    Elite TE's help you get first downs and help out immensely in the red zone. This is a game of first downs and extending drives. Wallace and Hartline can run routes to create room in the middle where a guy like Eifert could post up and grab an easy first down. If we take a skill guy at #12 I would much rather take Eifert over Austin. Gronk and Graham put up better numbers than a lot of WR and having a guy like that makes it easier for everyone on offense.

    Keller is good and Clay could be good but Eifert will likely become elite.


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    I understand all your points but we HAVE Keller and Clay. We DON'T have a LT or a decent RG for that matter. If we signed Winston and took Cooper, I'd be thrilled and so would Tannehill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COMEBACKRICKY View Post
    Elite TE's help you get first downs and help out immensely in the red zone. This is a game of first downs and extending drives. Wallace and Hartline can run routes to create room in the middle where a guy like Eifert could post up and grab an easy first down. If we take a skill guy at #12 I would much rather take Eifert over Austin. Gronk and Graham put up better numbers than a lot of WR and having a guy like that makes it easier for everyone on offense.

    Keller is good and Clay could be good but Eifert will likely become elite.
    Elite tight ends are the guys like Graham and Gronk. Athletic freaks who make plays in the red zone and beat you down the seam. Eifert is a backend first round guy, the one guy I see who has the traits of a Gronk is Vance McDonald, he's got that extra gear, but his hands are ****. He's the guy I would roll the dice on in round 2 if we did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grushcow View Post
    Elite tight ends are the guys like Graham and Gronk. Athletic freaks who make plays in the red zone and beat you down the seam. Eifert is a backend first round guy, the one guy I see who has the traits of a Gronk is Vance McDonald, he's got that extra gear, but his hands are ****. He's the guy I would roll the dice on in round 2 if we did.
    Right, 12 may be a bit high for Eifert but the parallels to Gronk are definitely there. Eifert's combine numbers are almost the same and I would definitely classify him as an athletic freak.

    I'm not so hot on McDonald. It's tough to teach someone how to catch the ball better since it relies on a lot of innate abilities. Eifert has great hands and anticipation. I'm not saying we should definitely take Eifert but I would rather take Eifert at 12 than spend a second round pick on McDonald.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COMEBACKRICKY View Post
    Right, 12 may be a bit high for Eifert but the parallels to Gronk are definitely there. Eifert's combine numbers are almost the same and I would definitely classify him as an athletic freak.

    I'm not so hot on McDonald. It's tough to teach someone how to catch the ball better since it relies on a lot of innate abilities. Eifert has great hands and anticipation. I'm not saying we should definitely take Eifert but I would rather take Eifert at 12 than spend a second round pick on McDonald.
    I can't disagree with you on that. I think he's a prime target if we trade down to the low 20s (Eifert).
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    Quote Originally Posted by grushcow View Post
    I can't disagree with you on that. I think he's a prime target if we trade down to the low 20s.
    Todd McShay has Eifert going 6 overall to the Browns in his most recent mock. I dont see that happening but I dont think Eifert gets past 17. Getting him at 12 is reaching for him based on prior drafts but theres going to be a team out there that won't mind taking him early because he brings a unique skill set to the offense. It'll be justified if he can turn into a 75+ reception per year TE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grushcow View Post
    Elite tight ends are the guys like Graham and Gronk. Athletic freaks who make plays in the red zone and beat you down the seam. Eifert is a backend first round guy, the one guy I see who has the traits of a Gronk is Vance McDonald, he's got that extra gear, but his hands are ****. He's the guy I would roll the dice on in round 2 if we did.
    Gronk is an athletic freak but Eifert isn't? You're delusional.
    Combine results:
    Eifert
    40 time - 4.65
    Bench - 22 reps
    Vertical leap - 35.5"
    Broad jump - 9'11"
    Shuttle - 4.32
    Cones - 6.92

    Gronkowski
    40 time - 4.68
    Bench - 23 reps
    Vertical leap - 33.5"
    Broad jump - 9'11"
    Shuttle - 4.47
    Cones - 7.18

    You can't say Eifert doesn't deserve the pick because of his athleticism, that's completely idiotic. Just because he doesn't run a 4.3 like Vernon Davis doesn't mean he can't be a great TE...
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    Quote Originally Posted by antillj94 View Post
    Gronk is an athletic freak but Eifert isn't? You're delusional.
    Combine results:
    Eifert
    40 time - 4.65
    Bench - 22 reps
    Vertical leap - 35.5"
    Broad jump - 9'11"
    Shuttle - 4.32
    Cones - 6.92

    Gronkowski
    40 time - 4.68
    Bench - 23 reps
    Vertical leap - 33.5"
    Broad jump - 9'11"
    Shuttle - 4.47
    Cones - 7.18

    You can't say Eifert doesn't deserve the pick because of his athleticism, that's completely idiotic. Just because he doesn't run a 4.3 like Vernon Davis doesn't mean he can't be a great TE...
    No where did you see me say I don't think he's gonna be a great TE....12 is just too high for me. I don't really care how the guys test, Eifert obviously isn't a poor athlete and is a pretty impressive one but Gronk also did all of that 15 pounds heavier and after being out all year with an injury. He also went in the second round. I peg him in the early 20s and a trade with the Vikings is where I'd like to see us land him. I don't look at Eifert as the seam buster that Graham and Gronk are, but I still like him in the early 20s.

    I have him in a trade down going to us at #23, so it's not like I don't like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COMEBACKRICKY View Post
    Todd McShay has Eifert going 6 overall to the Browns in his most recent mock. I dont see that happening but I dont think Eifert gets past 17. Getting him at 12 is reaching for him based on prior drafts but theres going to be a team out there that won't mind taking him early because he brings a unique skill set to the offense. It'll be justified if he can turn into a 75+ reception per year TE.
    McShay's being crazy. We're his ceiling but if he gets by the Giants and we were to trade down with Minny he's my pick at #23.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grushcow View Post
    Elite tight ends are the guys like Graham and Gronk. Athletic freaks who make plays in the red zone and beat you down the seam. Eifert is a backend first round guy, the one guy I see who has the traits of a Gronk is Vance McDonald, he's got that extra gear, but his hands are ****. He's the guy I would roll the dice on in round 2 if we did.
    So if you could have Gronk oor grahm you wouldnt use a first on them?But your willing to take a crapshoot Watch Eiferts tape and you will be soldin 2nd on a lesser guy with**** hands?
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