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Thread: Is DJ Hayden in play at #12

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    Is DJ Hayden in play at #12

    Mayock just named him his no.1 corner. I know CK has been big on him right from the start.

    He has been fully cleared by doctors and 100% healthy is considered better than X.Rhodes.

    Ireland made statement about being able to draft corners late in draft, but he does like to drop smokescreens and if he really believed this why would he draft Davis & Smith so early previously.

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    I think he is...he got knocked down for medical much like Star L., like Star people are realizing he is ok and a very very talented player.
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    I'm not sure at 12 with that freak injury now in his history but if we trade down I definitely see him as first round talent.
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    I just can't see it at #12 even though his talent may dictate that. I think Hayden drops to the end of the 1st where teams with more depth can take on more risk.
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    I don't know that he's better than Xavier Rhodes, but if you wanted to steer toward Hayden because you believe he fits the system better than Rhodes, I can go for that. My big problem with the system argument is using it to justify taking players that are clearly inferior. A great example would be steering toward Desmond Trufant at 12 instead of Xavier Rhodes. I think Rhodes is just a superior football player regardless of system. But that's not really the case with Hayden, who I rate right up there with Rhodes and Milliner.
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    Not a big fan of Rhodes at all he reminds many including myself of Sean Smith. They virtually have the same strengths and weaknesses...


    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    I don't know that he's better than Xavier Rhodes, but if you wanted to steer toward Hayden because you believe he fits the system better than Rhodes, I can go for that. My big problem with the system argument is using it to justify taking players that are clearly inferior. A great example would be steering toward Desmond Trufant at 12 instead of Xavier Rhodes. I think Rhodes is just a superior football player regardless of system. But that's not really the case with Hayden, who I rate right up there with Rhodes and Milliner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANUFan View Post
    Not a big fan of Rhodes at all he reminds many including myself of Sean Smith. They virtually have the same strengths and weaknesses...
    Sean Smith comparison is lazy and inaccurate, in my opinion.
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    Rhodes has stiff hips and will be flagged all the time for banging with receivers beyond 5 yards. I do not like him.

    Milliner is too much a red flag for me and will be this draft's biggest surprise of where he goes vs. the conventional wisdom of the last few months.
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    i guess that means you have rhodes and milliner ranked as in the #175 pick range given where you took hayden in your on line mock or whatever that was...seems odd to me to wait so long to pull the trigger on hayden if he was so highly thought of..

    but then again i do see a lot of sean smith like balance and struggles with smaller quicker wrs with xavier rhodes ...and i don't think i've been lazy about it...
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    I took D.J. Hayden in the 6th round of MockTwo after passing on him with my 2nd and 3rd round picks. I didn't pick again until the 6th round. I had no 4th or 5th round picks and I only had one 2nd and one 3rd. I knew the folks in MockTwo were not going to take him until the 7th round, if at all, based on what happened in MockOne and the way media boards were ranking him and talking about him. But I made it clear in my description that if healthy he should come out as one of the very best corners in the draft and that we'd be more likely to be talking about him in the 2nd round.

    Of course, this was about 3 months ago. When literally nobody was talking about D.J. Hayden being one of the very best corners in the entire Draft, if healthy.
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