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    Vikings / Pats Deal Analyzed

    Everyone was gushing over the Vikings / Patriots deal saying that the Pats robbed Spielman and the Vikes. Here is the values:

    29th pick: 640

    52nd pick: 380
    83rd pick: 175
    102nd pick: 92
    229th pick: 1
    Total: 648

    So 640 vs 648 is not a big deal. Love how Eisen and others started slobbering over Bellichek when he makes a deal. They moved back to the end of the 2nd from the end of the 1st. They better get a 3rd and 4th rounder thrown in. I don't think I would want the Dolphins to make that trade if I was sitting there at the end of the 1st and Patterson, Hunter, Robert Woods, and Keenan Allen are all still on the board.
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    I like the deal the vikes made. Trade mid round picks to grab elite talent. Their first three picks could pay off huge for them.
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    I just detest the idea of Bellichek with more picks 8(
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    Quote Originally Posted by OcalaPhinfan View Post
    I just detest the idea of Bellichek with more picks 8(
    Why? So they can draft more WRs and CBs that don't end up panning out?

    The Patriots' drafts have always been blown out of proportion. They really haven't drafted very well over the past 4 or 5 seasons. That's the main reason, in my mind anyway, that they stopped winning Superbowls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPhinFan View Post
    Why? So they can draft more WRs and CBs that don't end up panning out?

    The Patriots' drafts have always been blown out of proportion. They really haven't drafted very well over the past 4 or 5 seasons. That's the main reason, in my mind anyway, that they stopped winning Superbowls.
    Yeah they put together some strong drafts in the 2000's, but as of recent they have been a little lackluster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry_Bagpipe View Post
    I like the deal the vikes made. Trade mid round picks to grab elite talent. Their first three picks could pay off huge for them.
    Agreed, the definitely picked some talented people and didnt have to give up the farm. I like all of their picks...
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    I thought the Vikings made fantastic moves and the Patriots were in an unfamiliar situation and panicked.

    Give me the upside of Patterson above anything the Patriots might find with all those mid and later round picks. The burden is now on them and I don't like their chances.

    Minnesota did what I described as ideal strategy in the main forum for the past week, to spotlight guys in the top 40 every year and all but ignore the middle rounds if you have to. There's nothing more overrated than late 2nd round through 4th round. Those rounds might produce moderate starters but you can pick them up elsewhere.

    The only difference was, I said pinpoint 2 premium players...Vikings got 3.
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    Is it just me or does the trade value chart seem a bit outdated now. Not the concept so much but the values of each pick. Like with our trade the 3rd pick is 2200 and the two we gave in return only equal 1680. That's such a huge margin I feel the chart is no longer accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by insom187 View Post
    Is it just me or does the trade value chart seem a bit outdated now. Not the concept so much but the values of each pick. Like with our trade the 3rd pick is 2200 and the two we gave in return only equal 1680. That's such a huge margin I feel the chart is no longer accurate.
    The other trades that were made were very close to their chart value (within 5% or so).

    I think this was more a case of the Raiders being dead set on one guy who they were confident would be there at #12 and taking the best offer available, and Miami really wanting to get a guy who they were confident would not be there at #3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by registeredguy View Post
    The other trades that were made were very close to their chart value (within 5% or so).

    I think this was more a case of the Raiders being dead set on one guy who they were confident would be there at #12 and taking the best offer available, and Miami really wanting to get a guy who they were confident would not be there at #3.
    I think you nailed it, Oakland wanted Hayden and knew that was their guy all along
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