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And theres no doubt in my mind that the teams are comparable. Quarterback is largely the only difference. We seem to be at a stand-off.
Again and again drafting for need leads to the demise of franchises. Time and again franchises like the Giants, Packers, Steelers, Ravens, and now the 49'ers simply scoop up what falls to them and they flourish. You seem to be saying that teams should draft for need first then worry about talent years down the road. I say we need to do the reverse. The only "need" you absolutely have to fill is quarterback. And personally, im of the opinion that high quarterback prospects are either a franchise players or not. If they are you take them, if they arent you pass on them. So in that light, you never reach for quarterback.
If you focus on need, you are always a year behind everyone else. You are worried about what happened last season and not whats happening next season. In a vacuum that would be fine but we are not in a vacuum. Players grow older, players get injured and cant recover, players leave for free agency, players take a step back in their development. The key isnt filling a need, the key is filling a need before it becomes a need. The good franchises do that by drafting the best talent available. The bad ones wait to long and have the situation blow up in their face.
If you have enough talented players you can cover up your weaknesses with gameplanning. The Vikings had a serious weakness at receiver last season. Instead of making some absurd midseason trade, they handed the rock to Peterson(talent) who carried them into the playoffs. The Giants had Osi and Justin Tuck a few years ago, do you think they regret drafting JPP?
The Lions lost alot of games last year, but can you say they shouldnt have drafted how they did in years past? They have among the best quarterbacks, receivers, and defensive tackles in the league. They have a solid foundation from which to build because they have players talented enough to make a difference in any and every game. As well, despite losing Titus Young to insanity, they didnt feel they had a particular hole at receiver. Why? Because they filled that hole with Ryan Broyles before it became a problem.
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Allen would be preferred because the man is almost built for the west coast offense. He could line up in all the positions and would have been a great 1.5 receiver. Kind of like Anquin Boldin or Greg Jennings. Guys who are more talented and productive then other number 2's but not quite the match up nightmares of a true number 1. It would have allowed us to get really creative with our offense, moving him and Hartline all over the place. Would he have taken awhile to recover from his injury? Yes. But it would have been worth the investment for years after his rookie season.
If we had walked out of this draft with Jordan, Jamar, and Allen, Ireland could have spent to rest of the draft on offensive lineman and you wouldnt hear me complain. Well, not really complain anyways, i would have been forced to make jokes.
I assume your refering to Matthews. When did our former 7th round pick become a stud? Everyone keeps saying it, i havent seen it. Tell me when he made his probowl appearance.We had Cats in that group because they were special teams monsters who didn't show much as receivers. We have better depth now.
Not a single running back on this team is proven. We dont even know if they can stay healthy much less compete better. Reggie was very productive for us. Keller is a better receiver then Fasano but is more limited also. Plus Fasano never had a serious injury for us. Push.We have better depth now. Now, you can argue that the top three guys on each squad are comparable. But, I still would say that the current trio would have to get the crown as they offer a lot more versatility. We also have a TE of the caliber of Keller. Our RB situation looks to be more promising top to bottom.
Keep telling yourself that. Repeating something over and over again doesnt make it reality. Youve offered no explanation except for a blanket statement. I'll take that with the same confidence i did when other people declared we are going to the playoffs each of the previous offseasons. You know, the offseasons before our 4 consecutive losing seasons.No standoff in my mind. The 2013 Dolphins are a much better team! Both defensively and offensively.
Yes, and they got superior rosters by drafted talented players. Not focusing on need. Which was my point. And the Phins admitted they draft for need. They have a horizontal draft board. Sure, they take talented players and sometimes a specific player causes them to move past their board, but they filter everything by position(and subsequently, which positions they need).Each of those teams that you named have superior rosters overall to the Dolphins. And, I don't think that the Phins have drafted solely for need. There's been a mixed approach...
And they got the superior roster because they drafted BPA in the past. They could then continue to take the BPA because they knew they had a talented roster. No one intends to draft busts. Everyone thinks they are drafting good players.The good teams are able to maybe go more BPA because they have other players they can count on if their decision to do so fails...
You mean like how they took a chance on the corner Prince a year or two later despite being thin at that position? They draft for talent. Yes, they would have drafted JPP regardless of who played that position. They didnt draft JPP with the thinking "well, this guy is going to bust but hey lets take him anyways because we already have players there and also so we can give our opponents a chance". They said "this guy is a freak and we need him". By the way, love this past quote. First you argue teams should draft for need. Now your insisting the Giants drafted JPP because they already had their need filled at that position.Question.... Do you think that G-Men felt more comfortable taking a chance on JPP because they knew that they had talented players like Osi & Tuck already in the fold? Do you honestly think that they would make the same choice if they were not as deep along their defensive line? Come on Man...
Exactly my point. That roster is stacked. I didnt assign blame one way or another. I just pointed out they are in a great position because their roster is talented. And how did they get in that great position of having a talented roster.....could it be because they drafted talented players instead of focusing on holes? Im not sure, lets ask their new offensive lineman Ezekiel Ansah.Bad example with the Lions. In my opinion their problem has not necessarily been lack of talent. It's been poor coaching, developmental issues and front office blunders. So, the thing is that their roster has had more talent.