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Thread: Defending the Read Option

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinPHIN View Post
    its actually easy to stop. im a defensive coordinator at the high school level and that's all we see. pros just aren't use to seeing it. it will be washed up in the next year or so just like the wild cat
    You have to have the horses up front to penetrate and disrupt. If the team running read option is controlling the LOS...it will be a long day for the defense
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    The most dangerous read option team in the NFL right now is San Fran -- and this is because of 1. their HORSES up front, 2. Colin Kapaernick's talent built for read option, and 3. skill level at WR and TE, and to lesser degree, RB.

    San Fran is simply the most talented team in the NFL roster wise, top to bottom. But this year is their year, because next year teams will be adapting personnel, much like the Phins are doing this year. It just takes time to get the right personnel, and wholesale changes such as the Phins are making are hard for teams to do -- and it's so hard that only one side can really be done in one year, and this not completely... hopefully our O will be remade next year, w. speed and suddenness at all skill positions. But right now, we have to realize what they're doing on D, and be grateful.

    Just mho,

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    fascinating read. good stuff!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    fascinating read. good stuff!!
    Thanks man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LDaniel7 View Post
    The most dangerous read option team in the NFL right now is San Fran -- and this is because of 1. their HORSES up front, 2. Colin Kapaernick's talent built for read option, and 3. skill level at WR and TE, and to lesser degree, RB.

    San Fran is simply the most talented team in the NFL roster wise, top to bottom. But this year is their year, because next year teams will be adapting personnel, much like the Phins are doing this year. It just takes time to get the right personnel, and wholesale changes such as the Phins are making are hard for teams to do -- and it's so hard that only one side can really be done in one year, and this not completely... hopefully our O will be remade next year, w. speed and suddenness at all skill positions. But right now, we have to realize what they're doing on D, and be grateful.

    Just mho,

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    Yeah, they are particularly nasty because of Vernon Davis. With that huge line and strong running game, they've already got the 8th man in the box defensively very often just to stop the basic run plays. So, if they get the right defense, they can clear out a side by having their WR's drag coverage to the other side, have Vernon Davis run an intermediate route to the empty side and run the read option to the empty side also. That usually means an LB is pulled away to cover Davis and then caught in no-man's land without enough help over the top to stay with Davis and too far away from the line of scrimmage to stop the option run at the point of attack. If the LB stays with Davis you have a mismatch coverage and an option run open for someone. If the LB breaks off coverage to defend the option run, Kaepernick should have an easy open intermediate pass to Davis, and if the help over the top isn't in position, an easy TD.

    When the West Coast Offense was first implemented by Bill Walsh not many people really understood how easy it makes things for a QB. The stats a QB can put up in that offense as far as completion percentage and yardage are ridiculous. Tons of short easy throws to big WR's and the QB gets credit for all the run after catch yardage these WR's generate. The read option is even easier for a QB. In addition to all the WCO stuff, it gets receivers wide open to the point of appearing completely uncovered in the 5-15 yard range that are nearly impossible to miss. You can see why so many QB's are drooling to run this system.
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    While I agree the read option was featured a lot last season, especially with the Niners and the Skins, I don't think it was the main reason we made those specific moves at the LB position. We added speed no doubt, and rushing the passer ability dramatically. Now that screams a lot more focus on stopping the Tom Bradys and Mannings of this world with freak TEs than concentrating on the new in vogue way to mask your QB's deficiencies. Which is exactly what the spread option read is. Don't get me wrong, it can be useful, just like the wildcat was for us, but in the end, you get in the playoffs and at some point you face a defense that wont fall for it. At that point, you'll have to rely on your QB, without his spread option mask...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickd13 View Post
    It's easy to defend in high school because guys that can run and throw like Colin Kaepernick and RGIII aren't playing in high school.
    It's all relative. Yes, it's true that you're not going to find hs qbs that play like CK or RG3, but you're also not going to find hs defenses that play like the Seahawks or the 49ers.
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    You cannot compare the Wildcat to the read option.

    Much like stopping the old options and wishbone (i'm so old I was a Wishbone QB in hs) one tactic is to 'simply" hit the QB often. Good plan until they run all over you with it. If the read option is "so easy" to stop then why is so many hs and college teams using it?

    It worked pretty well for that Tebow guy. But then he is the only QB I've ever seen who can take those hits.
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    Re: Defending the Read Option

    Its very simple... Hit the QB very very hard, very often.

    Like Pagano said, he wont run the option because the city would run him out of the state if he risked Andrew Lucks health.

    Let RG3 run and retire in a few years... Luck and Tannehill can carry the draft class just fine.
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    lol, so simple..............

    p.s that is also the "easy" way to beat the Patriots with Tom Brady, all we do is hit him hard all game long.

    I think the phrase is "easier said then done".
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