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    TV Who would you have taken with same picks?

    Now the draft is over, who would you have taken if you was GM? We can look back at this next year, two years and what most consider the right time to judge a draft in 3 years.

    None of us can project trades so, only 2 rules apply. You can stick with the original pick or you can go with the trade made. In other words you cant project your own trades.

    Also you are drafting for Philbin. He wants a character guys with a good work ethic, so certain players must be off the board, for example Tyrann Mathieu.

    Also try to draft without hindsight. In other words draft with the intention of not knowing how next rounds will fall.

    My draft:-

    I love the first 3 picks, but think we missed a trick after trade with Saints. I hated the trade up for Will Davis. I thought we could have picked off on all the talent that fell into round 4.

    1-Dion Jordan-DE/OLB
    2-Jamer Taylor-CB
    3-Dallas Thomas-OT
    4-Barrett Jones-OG/C
    4-Phillip Thomas-SS
    4-Quinton Patton-WR
    5-Joseph Randle-RB
    5-Caleb Sturgis-K
    7-Reid Fragel-OT
    7-Chase Thomas-OLB
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    Original picks...I think. We gave up a 4th, 5th, and 7th in the Will Davis trade up after trading with NO, they're back now.
    1. Lane Johnson OT- Just for insurance and the fact that we have more draft picks now.
    2. Jamar Taylor CB
    3. Damontre Moore DE
    4a. Duke Williams S
    4b. Dion Sims TE
    4c. Khaseem Greene LB
    5a. Kenny Stills WR
    5b. Mike Gillislee RB
    5c. Dustin Hopkins K
    Didn't have a 6th.
    7a. Jordan Poyer CB
    7b. Braden Brown OT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phinsfan93 View Post
    Original picks...I think. We gave up a 4th, 5th, and 7th in the Will Davis trade up after trading with NO, they're back now.
    1. Lane Johnson OT- Just for insurance and the fact that we have more draft picks now.
    2. Jamar Taylor CB
    3. Damontre Moore DE
    4a. Duke Williams S
    4b. Dion Sims TE
    4c. Khaseem Greene LB
    5a. Kenny Stills WR
    5b. Mike Gillislee RB
    5c. Dustin Hopkins K
    Didn't have a 6th.
    7a. Jordan Poyer CB
    7b. Braden Brown OT
    I was thinking about posting a similar thread, glad someone did.

    You've got the right idea, I agree with a ton of yours, but without the hindsight of Moore being on the board in the 3rd I think Dion would've been my pick. So, without trading back into the 3rd round:
    1. Dion Jordan, DE
    2. Jamar Taylor, CB
    3. Dallas Thomas, OL
    4a. Dion Sims, TE
    4b. Quinton Patton, WR
    5a. Mike Gillislee, RB
    5b. Jordan Poyer, CB
    5c. Dustin Hopkins, K
    7a. Chase Thomas, LB
    7b. Don Jones, S

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    Draft: 1. LB Ryan Shazier 2. OL Joel Bitonio 3. WR Donte Moncrief 4. OL Brandon Thomas 5. OT Laurent Duvernay Tardif 6. RB Bo Oliver 7. TBD

    LT Albert LG Smith C Pouncey RG Colledge RT Bitonio
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    I'd make one change --- Patton instead of Davis in the 3rd. I also may have gambled and taken Wheaton instead of Thomas with the hopes that Thomas would fall a few spots to the original 3rd round pick.
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    This isn't hindsight. I actually set myself to drafting right along side the Dolphins in real time. If the Dolphins made a trade I agreed with (Davone Bess, the trade down from 82) then I accepted it. If not (trading up from 12 to 3), then I didn't.

    Pick #012: DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
    Pick #042: OT Menelik Watson, Florida State
    Pick #054: TE Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
    Pick #077: WR Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
    Pick #104: S Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse
    Pick #106: OG Brian Schwenke, California
    Pick #109: RB Johnathan Franklin, UCLA
    Pick #146: CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
    Pick #164: WR Mark Harrison, Rutgers
    Pick #166: DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia
    Pick #224: OT Xavier Nixon, Florida
    Pick #250: QB Peter Lalich, California (PA)

    Priority Free Agents: DT Darrington Sentimore, DT Kwame Geathers, WR Sam McGuffie, FB Lonnie Pryor, RB Dennis Johnson, TE Joseph Fauria and CB Nickell Robey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    This isn't hindsight. I actually set myself to drafting right along side the Dolphins in real time. If the Dolphins made a trade I agreed with (Davone Bess, the trade down from 82) then I accepted it. If not (trading up from 12 to 3), then I didn't.

    Pick #012: DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
    Pick #042: OT Menelik Watson, Florida State
    Pick #054: TE Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
    Pick #077: WR Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
    Pick #104: S Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse
    Pick #106: OG Brian Schwenke, California
    Pick #109: RB Johnathan Franklin, UCLA
    Pick #146: CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
    Pick #164: WR Mark Harrison, Rutgers
    Pick #166: DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia
    Pick #224: OT Xavier Nixon, Florida
    Pick #250: QB Peter Lalich, California (PA)

    Priority Free Agents: DT Darrington Sentimore, DT Kwame Geathers, WR Sam McGuffie, FB Lonnie Pryor, RB Dennis Johnson, TE Joseph Fauria and CB Nickell Robey.
    I love the Peter Lalich pick and from what I have found so far, no one has picked him up yet. I find that surprising to say the least. he could be serious competition to any team's current #3 QB.
    Time for the 'Phins of the future to play like the 'Phins of the past. Bring it on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    This isn't hindsight. I actually set myself to drafting right along side the Dolphins in real time. If the Dolphins made a trade I agreed with (Davone Bess, the trade down from 82) then I accepted it. If not (trading up from 12 to 3), then I didn't.

    Pick #012: DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
    Pick #042: OT Menelik Watson, Florida State
    Pick #054: TE Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
    Pick #077: WR Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
    Pick #104: S Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse
    Pick #106: OG Brian Schwenke, California
    Pick #109: RB Johnathan Franklin, UCLA
    Pick #146: CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
    Pick #164: WR Mark Harrison, Rutgers
    Pick #166: DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia
    Pick #224: OT Xavier Nixon, Florida
    Pick #250: QB Peter Lalich, California (PA)

    Priority Free Agents: DT Darrington Sentimore, DT Kwame Geathers, WR Sam McGuffie, FB Lonnie Pryor, RB Dennis Johnson, TE Joseph Fauria and CB Nickell Robey.
    1. I like some of your picks...esp. late. Franklin is a steal. Washington is probably a workout warrior, but worth a look at 6.
    2. I love the trade compared to what you took at 12. Lotulelei does not move me much. Richardson and Williams are going to make more of an impact. And both DT's who were still on the board.
    3. Taylor is a much better selection than Kelce at 54. He was thought of higher in many people's mind and plays a more important position. Sims has similar grade to Kelce everywhere I looked and he was taken two rounds later.
    4. Watson is an interesting project, but in the end a chancy decision to pencil him as a starter at OT. We would be looking for insurance anyways in the FA market
    5. I cannot argue with JI's picks of Taylor and Sims because I was banging the keyboard on this site hoping they would take them.

    Overall you have nice draft, but the Fins actual haul is very solid. No complaints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayden Fox View Post
    1. I like some of your picks...esp. late. Franklin is a steal. Washington is probably a workout warrior, but worth a look at 6.
    2. I love the trade compared to what you took at 12. Lotulelei does not move me much. Richardson and Williams are going to make more of an impact. And both DT's who were still on the board.
    3. Taylor is a much better selection than Kelce at 54. He was thought of higher in many people's mind and plays a more important position. Sims has similar grade to Kelce everywhere I looked and he was taken two rounds later.
    4. Watson is an interesting project, but in the end a chancy decision to pencil him as a starter at OT. We would be looking for insurance anyways in the FA market
    5. I cannot argue with JI's picks of Taylor and Sims because I was banging the keyboard on this site hoping they would take them.

    Overall you have nice draft, but the Fins actual haul is very solid. No complaints.
    Are you really trying to impress upon me that my preference of Travis Kelce over Jamar Taylor is null because you checked around for internet grades and found some people rating Dion Sims the same as Travis Kelce?

    How long have you known me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Are you really trying to impress upon me that my preference of Travis Kelce over Jamar Taylor is null because you checked around for internet grades and found some people rating Dion Sims the same as Travis Kelce?

    How long have you known me?
    I'm a little shocked at the non-emphasis you placed on the defensive backfield. Were you just happier with our DB then most, or just didn't see the value?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grushcow View Post
    I'm a little shocked at the non-emphasis you placed on the defensive backfield. Were you just happier with our DB then most, or just didn't see the value?
    Just the value didn't play out that way, unfortunately. The whole draft could have gone a number of different directions. Had Star Lotulelei not fallen to 12 then I probably would've taken D.J. Hayden at that spot and at that point between he and Shamarko Thomas you end up saying "wow ck you got us some nice backfield options". Know what I mean? I just couldn't pass up on a Star Lotulelei for a D.J. Hayden even though I adore Hayden.

    You can't fix EVERYTHING in one draft. If you'd have given me the full off season I feel comfortable I'd have come away with a lot of fixes but that's not what happened here...
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