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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    This isn't hindsight. I actually set myself to drafting right along side the Dolphins in real time. If the Dolphins made a trade I agreed with (Davone Bess, the trade down from 82) then I accepted it. If not (trading up from 12 to 3), then I didn't.

    Pick #012: DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
    Pick #042: OT Menelik Watson, Florida State
    Pick #054: TE Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
    Pick #077: WR Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
    Pick #104: S Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse
    Pick #106: OG Brian Schwenke, California
    Pick #109: RB Johnathan Franklin, UCLA
    Pick #146: CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
    Pick #164: WR Mark Harrison, Rutgers
    Pick #166: DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia
    Pick #224: OT Xavier Nixon, Florida
    Pick #250: QB Peter Lalich, California (PA)

    Priority Free Agents: DT Darrington Sentimore, DT Kwame Geathers, WR Sam McGuffie, FB Lonnie Pryor, RB Dennis Johnson, TE Joseph Fauria and CB Nickell Robey.
    1. I like some of your picks...esp. late. Franklin is a steal. Washington is probably a workout warrior, but worth a look at 6.
    2. I love the trade compared to what you took at 12. Lotulelei does not move me much. Richardson and Williams are going to make more of an impact. And both DT's who were still on the board.
    3. Taylor is a much better selection than Kelce at 54. He was thought of higher in many people's mind and plays a more important position. Sims has similar grade to Kelce everywhere I looked and he was taken two rounds later.
    4. Watson is an interesting project, but in the end a chancy decision to pencil him as a starter at OT. We would be looking for insurance anyways in the FA market
    5. I cannot argue with JI's picks of Taylor and Sims because I was banging the keyboard on this site hoping they would take them.

    Overall you have nice draft, but the Fins actual haul is very solid. No complaints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedSlimmJr View Post
    I wouldn't have traded up unless it was for Dee Milliner. Otherwise....


    1 (12) - Tyler Eifert

    2 (42) - Corey Lemonier

    2 (54) - Stedman Bailey

    3 (77) - Hugh Thornton

    3 (82) - Zaviar Gooden

    4 (104) - Shamarko Thomas

    5 (146) - Terry Hawthorne

    5 (164) - Ryan Swope

    5 (166) - Cornelius Washington

    7 (224) - Eric Herman

    7 (250) - Don Jones




    Priority UDFA's - Javone Lawson, Bennie Cunningham, Jake Stoneburner, Alvin Bailey, Jordan Rodgers, Jeff Nady, Zach Sudfeld

    thats the only player I thought was worth trading up for esp the drop at cb after him. Thats why I drafted Banks because I felt after him was a steep drop off in talent.
    I remember all draft wanting to take Swope but I saw other players that . THe two biggest suprised was Poyer and Swope dropping. Poyer was a fringe 1st rounder to many people that dont have teams to draft for. Swope was overrated on the board but he should have went sooner. Kind of weird Hartline went in 4th and he almost went undrafted .
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    Stealing CK's format...

    Pick #012: DT Star Lotulelei, Utah - BPA
    Pick #042: CB Johnthan Banks, Mississippi St - between Banks & Watson, don't want a project this high
    Pick #054: OLB Arthur Brown, Kansas St - a favorite of mine, can play all three downs puts Misi on the bench
    Pick #077: DE Damontre Moore, Texas A&M - toughest choice, missed Allen by one pick, thought Bailey would fall
    Pick #104: FS Phillip Thomas, Fresno St - centerfielder that creates turnovers, Clemens needs competition
    Pick #106: RT David Bahktiari, Colorado - need oline help, tough, can play LT in a pinch
    Pick #109: C/G Barrett Jones, Alabama - more oline help, versatile
    Pick #146: RB Mike Gillislee, Florida - need a power back, missed out on Stepfan Taylor
    Pick #164: CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon St - perfect zone corner
    Pick #166: DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia - too good of an athlete to let him fall any further
    Pick #224: TE Joseph Fauria, UCLA - redzone target
    Pick #250: OT Chris Faulk, LSU - knee injury, redshirt him

    Can't solve all of the team's problems with one draft. Will look for a TE & slot receiver next year but this draft would've prepared us for most of the impending free agents following this season (Soliai, Starks, Grimes, Misi, Clemons, Incognito).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMadison29 View Post
    Stealing CK's format...

    Pick #012: DT Star Lotulelei, Utah - BPA
    Pick #042: CB Johnthan Banks, Mississippi St - between Banks & Watson, don't want a project this high
    Pick #054: OLB Arthur Brown, Kansas St - a favorite of mine, can play all three downs puts Misi on the bench
    Pick #077: DE Damontre Moore, Texas A&M - toughest choice, missed Allen by one pick, thought Bailey would fall
    Pick #104: FS Phillip Thomas, Fresno St - centerfielder that creates turnovers, Clemens needs competition
    Pick #106: RT David Bahktiari, Colorado - need oline help, tough, can play LT in a pinch
    Pick #109: C/G Barrett Jones, Alabama - more oline help, versatile
    Pick #146: RB Mike Gillislee, Florida - need a power back, missed out on Stepfan Taylor
    Pick #164: CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon St - perfect zone corner
    Pick #166: DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia - too good of an athlete to let him fall any further
    Pick #224: TE Joseph Fauria, UCLA - redzone target
    Pick #250: OT Chris Faulk, LSU - knee injury, redshirt him
    So u are happy with our wr's , youth wise
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedSlimmJr View Post
    I wouldn't have traded up unless it was for Dee Milliner. Otherwise....


    1 (12) - Tyler Eifert

    2 (42) - Corey Lemonier

    2 (54) - Stedman Bailey

    3 (77) - Hugh Thornton

    3 (82) - Zaviar Gooden

    4 (104) - Shamarko Thomas

    5 (146) - Terry Hawthorne

    5 (164) - Ryan Swope

    5 (166) - Cornelius Washington

    7 (224) - Eric Herman

    7 (250) - Don Jones




    Priority UDFA's - Javone Lawson, Bennie Cunningham, Jake Stoneburner, Alvin Bailey, Jordan Rodgers, Jeff Nady, Zach Sudfeld
    This!!!! I would have stayed put and taken Eifert first than filled in the pieces. I do like that we got Jordan though. I think the only pick I disliked was Will Davis, but hopefully he will get better.
    1. OG: Zack Martin, Notre Dame
    2. ILB: Chris Borland, Wisconsin
    3. TE: C.J. Fiedorowicz, Iowa
    4. DT: Daniel McCullers, Tenn
    5. FS: Kenny Ladler, Vanderbilt
    6. QB: Connor Shaw, South Carolina
    7. RB: Isaiah Crowell, RB, Alabama State
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayden Fox View Post
    1. I like some of your picks...esp. late. Franklin is a steal. Washington is probably a workout warrior, but worth a look at 6.
    2. I love the trade compared to what you took at 12. Lotulelei does not move me much. Richardson and Williams are going to make more of an impact. And both DT's who were still on the board.
    3. Taylor is a much better selection than Kelce at 54. He was thought of higher in many people's mind and plays a more important position. Sims has similar grade to Kelce everywhere I looked and he was taken two rounds later.
    4. Watson is an interesting project, but in the end a chancy decision to pencil him as a starter at OT. We would be looking for insurance anyways in the FA market
    5. I cannot argue with JI's picks of Taylor and Sims because I was banging the keyboard on this site hoping they would take them.

    Overall you have nice draft, but the Fins actual haul is very solid. No complaints.
    Are you really trying to impress upon me that my preference of Travis Kelce over Jamar Taylor is null because you checked around for internet grades and found some people rating Dion Sims the same as Travis Kelce?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Are you really trying to impress upon me that my preference of Travis Kelce over Jamar Taylor is null because you checked around for internet grades and found some people rating Dion Sims the same as Travis Kelce?

    How long have you known me?
    I'm a little shocked at the non-emphasis you placed on the defensive backfield. Were you just happier with our DB then most, or just didn't see the value?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grushcow View Post
    I'm a little shocked at the non-emphasis you placed on the defensive backfield. Were you just happier with our DB then most, or just didn't see the value?
    Just the value didn't play out that way, unfortunately. The whole draft could have gone a number of different directions. Had Star Lotulelei not fallen to 12 then I probably would've taken D.J. Hayden at that spot and at that point between he and Shamarko Thomas you end up saying "wow ck you got us some nice backfield options". Know what I mean? I just couldn't pass up on a Star Lotulelei for a D.J. Hayden even though I adore Hayden.

    You can't fix EVERYTHING in one draft. If you'd have given me the full off season I feel comfortable I'd have come away with a lot of fixes but that's not what happened here...
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    For me it isn't about value, but players that I really must come away with for a draft. If this means reaching in the eyes of talking heads on tv, then so it be it. I would subscribe to Dimitroff's or Spielman's philosophy of trading away picks to securing the coveted players. Any player off the street can be depth, finding immediate return on players should be the goal of the draft. Hindsight makes it easy to see who was slotted where without having to worry if someone jumps you for a player.

    Bolded are must players.

    1 (12) - Shariff Floyd, DT
    2 (42) - Robert Alford, CB
    2 (54) - Vance McDonald, TE
    3 (77) - Markus Wheaton, WR
    3 (82) - Johnathan Franklin, RB
    4 (104) - Lavar Edwards, DE
    5 (146) - Terry Hawthorne, CB
    5 (164) - Cornelius Washington, DE
    5 (166) - Steve Beauharnais, LB
    7 (224) - Marc Anthony, CB
    7 (250) - Don Jones, S

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Just the value didn't play out that way, unfortunately. The whole draft could have gone a number of different directions. Had Star Lotulelei not fallen to 12 then I probably would've taken D.J. Hayden at that spot and at that point between he and Shamarko Thomas you end up saying "wow ck you got us some nice backfield options". Know what I mean? I just couldn't pass up on a Star Lotulelei for a D.J. Hayden even though I adore Hayden.

    You can't fix EVERYTHING in one draft. If you'd have given me the full off season I feel comfortable I'd have come away with a lot of fixes but that's not what happened here...
    Ya fair enough, if that's your evaluation of Star can't disagree with you and your philosophy. I would have to assume you aren't a Jamar Taylor fan then? My biggest thing entering this draft was stopping the high octane offenses with pass rush and players in the secondary, that why I wouldn't have been crazy about Star cause I think he's a little limited rushing the passer, and part of the reason I came away very pleased with our draft at the end of the day. I wanted 1 solid corner and one solid pass rusher, so the first 2 picks couldn't have played out much better in my eyes.
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