When Death Smiles Upon You the Infantryman smiles back
WVdolphan "Ireland gets it.
And those who also get it, know that Ireland gets it. Those who are clueless are still concerned about cornfed and the running game"
WVDOLPHAN "The last thing this team should be worried about is the OC(offensive corn). When you add it all up, its really a pretty solid OC"
This thread is what occasionally exhausts me about you, dlockz. Here you're faced with a pretty good indicator of Dion Jordan's drop-off in production (his shoulder)--not to mention he was projected a top-5 pick by most, top-10 at least. But rather than acknowledge this injury correlation and take it positively and in a way that gives you more hope or to praise the FO...you hammer other evidence (ignoring the injury) that tells you it was a bad move and you continue bashing and saying 'he won't be that good, bad move'.
This Jordan stuff is a choice (to consider the injury or not); and you choose the negative spin, all this on a college kid who hasn't played a down yet and who got drafted by your own team. Why do this? To me, this just doesn't sound like 'fan' behavior; it's like you'd rather predict he's going to suck than look for reasons he'll be good. Usually I don't mind your takes...but in this case I just don't get the point.
I loved the pick
So I should love every pick we make because we take them. I mean we took Pat White was I supposed to assume he was going to be a stud. I wasnt a huge fan of Jordan his previous year in Oregon, just seemed another guy on the field. Im not basing my opinion post injury or pre injury. Go back and watch the bowl game verus Wisconsin last year and I just dont see a player worth taking with the number three pick in draft. Im not taking a negative spin on Jordan I just dont think he is a special player in the NFl, hope Im wrong. I mean its ok to say he is the next Jason Taylor or will be better than Von Miller or Aldon Smith but to think he is nothing special is such a hard thing to understand or accept. Players are drafted every year with differing opinions and high hopes I dont understand why its so wrong for me to disagree. Do you remember last year me saying Tannehill wasnt a good pick or MArtin. We all like and dislike players just as Gm's in the nfl all have different opinions. We didnt have to give up much to get the pick which showns u teams did not feel he was the next coming. Whats sad is if I was saying he was the next Jason Taylor I would be praised but to think otherwise is somehow choosing negative spin. I watched Oregon play alot and saw a good prospect but definately not some cant miss guy. If we had taken Vernon ghouston and I did not like the pick Im sure I would hear the same thing. I also did not think Chris Long was worth the number one pick or even the number two pick back in 2008.
From Kelly himself
The Miami Dolphins traded up to take Jordan one pick before the Eagles were on the board. The Dolphins gave up their No. 12 pick and their second-rounder (No. 42 overall) to the Oakland Raiders for the opportunity to get Jordan. Kelly hinted the Eagles had to give up a third-rounder to move up one pick, Garafolo reported, but decided that was too much.
"When you start to get emotionally involved, and I was very conscious of that, then what do you have to do to move up?" Kelly said. "If you move up to get him, then that means you don't get Bennie Logan because you don't have a third-round pick, or you don't get Matt Barkley because you don't have a fourth-round pick. It's the accumulation of putting the whole team together. It's saying, 'What are you willing to sacrifice to get one player?'
If he thought Jordan was cant miss he would not have scoffed at trading a 3rd round pick to move up. This doesnt mean he did not like him but shows that not everyone thinks he is the next coming.