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    NFL's Scariest Front on Paper

    Miami has really done an amazing job of bringing athletes into the defensive front. On paper, I feel this is arguably the best in the NFL. Now we all must keep our fingers crossed that the on-field performance is even marginally near the frightening numbers.

    Defensive Line
    Defensive Ends


    Cam Wake
    40 Yard Dash: 4.65s
    Vertical Leap: 45.5"
    Broad Jump: 130"
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): 20


    Olivier Vernon
    40 Yard Dash: 4.73s
    Vertical Leap: 34.5"
    Broad Jump: 122"
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): 31


    Dion Jordan
    40 Yard Dash: 4.60
    Vertical Leap: 32.5"
    Broad Jump: 122"
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): N/A


    Defensive Tackles


    Randy Starks
    40 Yard Dash: 5.03s
    Vertical Leap: 29.5"
    Broad Jump: 102"
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): 27 reps


    Paul Soliai
    40 Yard Dash: 5.10
    Vertical Leap: 29.5"
    Broad Jump: 103"
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): N/A


    Jared Odrick
    40 Yard Dash: 5.03
    Vertical Leap: 29"
    Broad Jump: 106"
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): 26 reps




    Linebackers
    Inside


    Koa Misi
    40 Yard Dash: 4.75s
    Vertical Leap: 38"
    Broad Jump: 127"
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): N/A


    Philip Wheeler
    40 Yard Dash: 4.76s
    Vertical Leap: 31"
    Broad Jump: 118"
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): 24 reps


    Outside


    Josh Kaddu
    40 Yard Dash: 4.67s
    Vertical Leap: 34"
    Broad Jump: 119"
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): 20 reps


    Jelani Jenkins
    40 Yard Dash: 4.54
    Vertical Leap: N/A
    Broad Jump: N/A
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): 27 reps


    Dannell Ellerbe
    40 Yard Dash: 4.63s
    Vertical Leap: 35"
    Broad Jump: 118"
    Bench Press (225 lbs.): N/A

    *Note: The positional arrangement listed isn't necessarily where they'll be playing this year. This is simply my opinion, i.e.:

    Odrick playing DT with the ending contracts of Starks and Soliai. Odrick could very well earn playing time at the defensive end position, especially in short yardage situations or in situations that Jordan finds himself dropping back to LB.

    Jordan is a bit of a prize and a mystery at the same time; I really cannot say for sure if he'll be a DE, an OLB, or what seems most likely: both.

    Wheeler playing ILB with the possible departure of Misi. It is very likely that Misi or Wheeler line up outside this year, as both will probably finish in the top three performers nearing the season and both will be wanted on the field at the same time. And as big as I am on Jenkins, I do not feel he'll be ready to start this year or next, on the outside.
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    You need to take a look at what the 49ers have done and you can't underestimate Seattle. No doubt we are amongst the top 5-6 in the league!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANUFan View Post
    You need to take a look at what the 49ers have done and you can't underestimate Seattle. No doubt we are amongst the top 5-6 in the league!!
    The 49ers are definitely arguable on paper. In terms of performance, I feel they are the best set of players in a long, long time - besides the Baltimore Ravens demolition crew that existed. Statistically, they will be very difficult to compete with and will likely be trend setters. However, I feel Miami stands a strong case, on paper.

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    I cannot argue that it is an excellent front 7. Some will come up with others, but Miami is very solid.


    The key will be getting them to understand the system, play together and find ways to use the players' strengths.


    This D has to take away the ball more. By chance, they will this year...they are bound to. However, it has to be a regular habit. It is the quickest way for this team to jump to 9 to 10 wins.


    Get me some turnovers!
    I agree. Miami has all of the tools readily available, and needs to be finely tuned to begin to perform at the same level as the 49ers. I feel they are the benchmark right now and if Miami can attain that level of pressure, playmaking, and consistency they have the opportunity to be the best.
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    We will have the best front 7 in football when it's all said in done. As it is, our front 4 is the best in my homer opinion lol.
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    I cannot argue that it is an excellent front 7. Some will come up with others, but Miami is very solid.

    The key will be getting them to understand the system, play together and find ways to use the players' strengths.

    This D has to take away the ball more. By chance, they will this year...they are bound to. However, it has to be a regular habit. It is the quickest way for this team to jump to 9 to 10 wins.

    Get me some turnovers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayden Fox View Post
    I cannot argue that it is an excellent front 7. Some will come up with others, but Miami is very solid.

    The key will be getting them to understand the system, play together and find ways to use the players' strengths.

    This D has to take away the ball more. By chance, they will this year...they are bound to. However, it has to be a regular habit. It is the quickest way for this team to jump to 9 to 10 wins.

    Get me some turnovers!
    I think that right there is the key. Using the players to their sthrenght. Example. I see Jordan as a better OLB on a 3-4 defence than as a DE on a 4-3 at THIS time. Once he gets bigger and stronger(if he does)he can be a top DE. The key will b to use different fronts and line him and Wake for that matter in different ways. We need a better and more consisten pass rush. All those numbers don't mean anything unless you do it out on the field. If you put Jordan at RDE on every snap most of the LT's in the NFL can pretty much manhandle him one on one so he'll need to run AROUND them which he did in college but it's harder to do in the NFL. They can chip him too if they know where he'll be. I'm looking for our DC to find ways to use him the right way and put him in positions to be effective. I don't believe we did enough of that last year with Bush. You need your players doing what they do best. If we change things up then the oline will have a harder time controling our front 7. Good thing with all the new players we have is that we're playing 5 preseason games this year and they will that to gel better and faster.

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    I still think the 9ers have a better front 7 with those two DE's and middle LB's... We have a pretty impressive front 7 though. I just hope our LB core can gel well together sooner than later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Omen View Post
    I still think the 9ers have a better front 7 with those two DE's and middle LB's... We have a pretty impressive front 7 though. I just hope our LB core can gel well together sooner than later.
    Talent-wise, absolutely. This argument is strictly on paper.

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    I think that right there is the key. Using the players to their sthrenght. Example. I see Jordan as a better OLB on a 3-4 defence than as a DE on a 4-3 at THIS time. Once he gets bigger and stronger(if he does)he can be a top DE. The key will b to use different fronts and line him and Wake for that matter in different ways. We need a better and more consisten pass rush. All those numbers don't mean anything unless you do it out on the field. If you put Jordan at RDE on every snap most of the LT's in the NFL can pretty much manhandle him one on one so he'll need to run AROUND them which he did in college but it's harder to do in the NFL. They can chip him too if they know where he'll be. I'm looking for our DC to find ways to use him the right way and put him in positions to be effective. I don't believe we did enough of that last year with Bush. You need your players doing what they do best. If we change things up then the oline will have a harder time controling our front 7. Good thing with all the new players we have is that we're playing 5 preseason games this year and they will that to gel better and faster.

    Ozzy rules!!
    I agree with most of what you said. The thing the gets me most excited is the age on most of these guys. A lot of them can be developed into the type of player you want (with their natural skillsets), where-as there isn't so much "plug'n'play." Instead of being forced to utilize players in specific situations, their so athletic that you can develop football skills and manipulate them as you wish. Hell, only Starks and Wake have grown into the type of players they are, there rest have so much room for manipulation.

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    Ellerbe is the ilb. What's great is a lot of those numbers are from their combine. Wake is a monster! Gained 20 lbs since combine
    I could see Ellerbe on the inside, with his sideline-to-sideline speed. It all depends on system, I just happen to come from an Eagle front background, so I like my speediest linebacker at the SAM. The position placement was purely opinionated.

    Again, I agree. There are several defenses that have simply performed at a superior level. My point was on paper, and when you see those numbers... they are scary for offensive coordinators.
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    49ers then the Dolphins. Bengals, Rams, Giants, and Cardinals are pretty good too.
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