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    Precision in Nature = Evidence of God

    ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:

    For the average person, precision indicates that an intelligent person guided the outcome. According to Webster's New World College Dictionary, the word "precision" is defined as follows:

    "the quality of being precise; exactness, accuracy"


    The reverse of precision is imprecision/inaccuracy/inexactness, which is always the result of an accident or a spontaneous event that happens by chance with no one guiding the outcome. Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary defines an accident as:

    "a nonessential event that HAPPENS BY CHANCE and has undesirable or unfortunate results." (Source: Websters New Collegiate Dictionary)



    Notice that an accident, by definition, is something unplanned aka it "happened by chance." Notice the similarity of the definition for "spontaneous" (as in "spontaneous event").


    DEFINITION OF "SPONTANEOUS":
    "Spontaneous means unplanned or done on impulse."
    http://www.yourdictionary.com/spontaneous




    AGRUMENT #1 FOR AN INTELLIGENT CREATOR:

    Scientific evidence shows there is extreme precision in everything around us in the natural world. This precision renders the evolution theory and Big Bang theory mere fiction, because both theories rely on accidents or spontaneous events. Precision leaves no room for error or for accidental events. Rather, precision requires deliberation.

    Take, for example, the first 60 elements that were discovered on the Periodic Table of the Elements of planet earth. Some of those 60 elements are gases and are therefore invisible to the human eye. The atoms--from which the Earth's elements are made--are specifically related to one another. In turn, the elements--e.g. arsenic, bismuth, chromium, gold, krypton--reflect a distinct, natural numeral order based upon the structure of their atoms. This is a proven LAW.

    The precision in the order of the elements made it possible for scientists such as Mendeleyev, Ramsey, Moseley, and Bohr to theorize the existence of unknown elements and their characteristics. These elements were later discovered, just as predicted. Because of the distinct numerical order of the elements, the word LAW is applied to the Periodic Table of the Elements. (Sources: (1) The McGraw-Hill Encyclopedia of Science & Technology, (2) "Periodic Law," from Encyclopdia Britannica, Vol. VII, p. 878, copyright 1978, (3) The Hutchinson Dictionary of Scientific Biography)


    SIDE NOTE: Laws found in nature, as defined by Webster's New World Dictionary, are:

    "a sequence of events that have been observed to occur with UNVARYING UNIFORMITY under the same conditions."


    QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION:
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    Were it not for the precise relationship among the first 60 discovered elements on the Periodic Table, would scientists have been able to accurately predict the existence of forms of matter that at the time were unknown?

    2. Could the precise law within the first 60 discovered elements (on the Periodic Table) have resulted by chance aka spontaneously aka by accident? Or is this evidence for the existence an intelligent Designer/God who guided the outcome?

    3. Evolution and Big Bang theories both rely upon things happening by chance aka at random. If evolution or Big Bang were credible explanations for the existence of life on earth or the existence of millions of planets in the heavens, how do either theory account for the Periodic Table of the Elements of planet earth in which the first 60 discovered elements are so precise, and so interrelated with one another, that the Periodic Table has been assigned the word "LAW"?
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    First of all, I don't think you have the slightest idea how elements, especially the heavier ones are formed. I also don't think you understand what makes elements different from each other. Secondly, you realize that elements can shift between being a solid, liquid and gas, depending on their temperature don't you?

    Besides even getting into your extremely flawed argument, their was a preciseness to the Big Bang. Whether it be the precise rate of expansion or the precise initial ratio of helium to hydrogen. If either of these things weren't as precise as they were, the formation of the stars and galaxies would never of been possible.

    Thirdly, your premise is absurd. No offense.
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    Precision in Nature = Evidence of God

    And why is this evidence of the CHRISTIAN God?

    There could still be a creator God that isn't the one of the Bible. After all, there are many beliefs in divine creators that predates Judaism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry_Bagpipe View Post
    First of all, I don't think you have the slightest idea how elements, especially the heavier ones are formed. I also don't think you understand what makes elements different from each other. Secondly, you realize that elements can shift between being a solid, liquid and gas, depending on their temperature don't you?

    Besides even getting into your extremely flawed argument, their was a preciseness to the Big Bang. Whether it be the precise rate of expansion or the precise initial ratio of helium to hydrogen. If either of these things weren't as precise as they were, the formation of the stars and galaxies would never of been possible.

    Thirdly, your premise is absurd. No offense.
    ALTER2EGO -to- HARRY_BAGPIPE:
    First of all, my OP is not concerned with how elements are formed, but instead, it is concerned with the precision in the elements on the Periodic Table and the question of how precision could result by accidental means, since accidents are unplanned events that produce undesirable results.

    Secondly, whether or not elements can shift between being a solid, liquid and gas, depending on their temperature has nothing whatever to do with the point of my OP: that the elements on the Periodic Table are so precise, that they are referred to as Periodic LAW.

    Thirdly, your skepticism is not an effective rebuttal to my OP. I cited scientific sources during my presentation. You cited none. Instead, you spouted your personal philosophy aka your opinion. On a public forum where everybody has an opinion, where did you get the idea your opinion is all that special? No offense.
    "That people may know that you, whose name is JEHOVAH, you alone are the Most High over all the earth." (Psalms 83:18)
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    Re: Precision in Nature = Evidence of God

    This guy again?
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    "Worse. A politician."
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