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Thread: Wetherford responds to allegations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zounds View Post
    Did someone not tell Weatherford that legislative approval was actually won before he received the bill? In fact, the vote was an overwhelming 35-4 in favor. Why does he think its his own personal responsibility to stop a bill that had almost unanimous support in the legislature.

    And he seems to think this bill forces taxpayers to pay for renovations, but this bill only asks them to vote on the issue.
    House doesnt always agree with senate on any level. Maybe bill should not have been included with 90 more million in tax rebates.
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    Honest question - I really don't know the answer. I'm just curious. How were the stadia in Jax and Tampa paid for? Were tax dollars involved? Bed taxes, local taxes, no taxes, what? What percentage? If those two stadia were privately financed without tax dollars then that is pretty convincing against the Dolphins that Florida does not help pay for stadia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finsfanjay13 View Post
    This is politics. Those who 'report' on this know about as much as we do: nothing. The politicians are going to say what they need to say to ensure that they remain elected officials and the Dolphins are going to say what they need to say to ensure that they can point the finger at the politicians.
    Well just before vote this was reported
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/naked...-dolphins.html

    "I would say it's an uphill battle for the Dolphins," Weatherford said.

    Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/naked...#storylink=cpy

    Asked about that, Weatherford had an entirely different recollection. In fact, it might not even get a floor vote in the Florida House. And if it does, there's a strong chance the measure would take a two-thirds vote to pass (a high bar).

    Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/naked...#storylink=cpy

    This was before vote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Tatious View Post
    Honest question - I really don't know the answer. I'm just curious. How were the stadia in Jax and Tampa paid for? Were tax dollars involved? Bed taxes, local taxes, no taxes, what? What percentage? If those two stadia were privately financed without tax dollars then that is pretty convincing against the Dolphins that Florida does not help pay for stadia.
    The county of Hillsborough increased their sales tax 1/2 a cent to pay for stadium.
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    It'd be interesting to see how the vote would have went if Miami was comming off a playoff season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Tatious View Post
    Honest question - I really don't know the answer. I'm just curious. How were the stadia in Jax and Tampa paid for? Were tax dollars involved? Bed taxes, local taxes, no taxes, what? What percentage? If those two stadia were privately financed without tax dollars then that is pretty convincing against the Dolphins that Florida does not help pay for stadia.
    The stadium in jacksonville was renovated by city of Jacksonville originally to accomadate the Florida Georgia game and not lose it to the Citrus Bowl which had offered more money. other money got added on once it was known they were attracting NFL team. Jville also pays for right to use stadium and doesnt make all money associated with stadium events.
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    The county of Hillsborough increased their sales tax 1/2 a cent to pay for stadium.[/QUOTE]

    Wow a half cent increase in SALES tax is a far cry from a bed tax. Sales tax is obviously infinitely more reaching to the local population. That's pretty substantial. Is that Tampa or Jacksonville? I'd be curious about the other situation too. Thanks for the info.

    At some point, if the Marlins, Heat, race track, Bucs, Jags, Rays etc all got tax money, the most iconic franchise in the state is going to get money. The time for improvements is dwindling. This is one of the oldest stadia in the league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Tatious View Post
    Honest question - I really don't know the answer. I'm just curious. How were the stadia in Jax and Tampa paid for? Were tax dollars involved? Bed taxes, local taxes, no taxes, what? What percentage? If those two stadia were privately financed without tax dollars then that is pretty convincing against the Dolphins that Florida does not help pay for stadia.
    In actuality the JVille stadium is completely different than the dolphin or bucs stadium. This was an existing public stadium that was going to be renovated for FL /GA game and was not just built for an nfl team that makes all profits from sttadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Tatious View Post
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    The county of Hillsborough increased their sales tax 1/2 a cent to pay for stadium.
    Wow a half cent increase in SALES tax is a far cry from a bed tax. Sales tax is obviously infinitely more reaching to the local population. That's pretty substantial. Is that Tampa or Jacksonville? I'd be curious about the other situation too. Thanks for the info.

    At some point, if the Marlins, Heat, race track, Bucs, Jags, Rays etc all got tax money, the most iconic franchise in the state is going to get money. The time for improvements is dwindling. This is one of the oldest stadia in the league.[/QUOTE]

    well if the residents of dade county are so upset which I doubt they are they can vote to raise their sales tax to fund the stadium . Tampa did that, I voted against it. Lost 47 to 53. Quite offended that a team I could care less about gets a stadium built for them for free and of course keeps most of money the stadium generates. I dont totally fault Jacksonville because this was a public stadium and they did not give everything away to JAguar plus they were fighting to keep the Fl georgia game
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2413fanphins View Post
    Isnt the money supposed to come from a hotel tax? Is so wouldnt tourists be footing the bill and not local residents? Can somebody explain this better to me if i am offbase?
    This was how I viewed it as well.
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    People dont realize how stuff gets tucked into bills. Maybe if the bill did not tie together tax rebates with the proposed bed tax increase it would have been taken to vote.
    The fact remains this should have been proposed well before January 23 which is when they sent resolution to State. I do wonder if only bed tax was involved how vote would have went.
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