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Thread: Ireland Passes The Torch To Philbin & Coaches

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    You're great bro, but I have to disagree with you on this one.

    As a team we finished 6th in scoring defense and in the lower 20'so in scoring offense. We have a young talented QB around whom we need to build. We had the 3rd most money in free agency and 5 picks in the top 82. That's a LOT of resources to address a lot of areas.

    We added 1 marquee receiver, Wallace, and I give Ireland high marks for.that. But, we lost our good LT and replaced him with a RT. We treaded water with all of our other offensive moves. We spent approximately the same amount on offense and defense in free agency, and used 1 of those high draft picks on a backup OL, passed up tons of weapons for Tannehill as we poured tons of high draft picks into defense.

    Offense wins in today's NFL.

    When you have a talented young QB, you build around him

    After spending all that money and using all those picks, I only see one major improvement in our offensive personnel, Mike Wallace. IMHO, that's not good enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital View Post
    You're great bro, but I have to disagree with you on this one.

    As a team we finished 6th in scoring defense and in the lower 20'so in scoring offense. We have a young talented QB around whom we need to build. We had the 3rd most money in free agency and 5 picks in the top 82. That's a LOT of resources to addressable lot of areas.

    We added 1 marquee receiver, Wallace, and I give Ireland high marks for.that. But, we lost our good LT and replaced him with a RT. We treated water with all of our other offensive moves. We spent approximately the same amount on offense and defense in free agency, and used 1 of those high draft picks on a backup OL, passed up tons of weapons for Tannehill as we poured tons of high draft picks into defense.

    Offense wins in today's NFL.

    When you have a talented young QB, you build around him

    After spending all that money and using all those picks, I only see one major improvement in our offensive personnel, Mike Wallace.
    I disagree. Wallace opens up the field for everyone else and I think Dion Sims will be our starting tight end by the half point of the season and he looks like you are trying to tackle a train coming through. More spacing for a semi mobile qb who statistically is very accurate and I think we gave Tannehill a great chance to special THIS year
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    Mike Wallace was Ireland's hidden pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital View Post
    When you have a talented young QB, you build around him

    After spending all that money and using all those picks, I only see one major improvement in our offensive personnel, Mike Wallace. IMHO, that's not good enough.
    And if you think honestly about it, getting Wallace only returns us to where we were two years ago when we had Brandon Marshall.
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    Ireland left a LOT of good OFFENSIVE talent on the floor this offseason. Yes, we picked up Wallace, but signed slowfeet WRs at the 2 and 3 -- all important positions in today's NFL.

    He pissed around w. Jake Long and left a huge hole at LT. Nice amount of OT available... but nope.

    He messed around and let Martellus Bennett slip through his fingers at TE [best available all-around TE] and had to settle for Keller.

    He signed Gibson [basically as slow as Bess] instead of any number of more talented WRs -- and don't get me started on the WRs he didn't sniff in the draft. Lots of talent there...

    On DEFENSE he seemed to value speed and explosion and skill. On offense, Miami is left w. question marks at OL and a very low-level WR corps apart from Wallace [unless some of our UDFAs step up].

    Lots of changes to the Phins team but would'a could'a should'a on upgrading offense to championship caliber.

    Hopefully the D can win games this year because the O still has to overcome weaknesses of non-talent at key positions.

    Ireland could have done much better even though... I give him credit for TRYING this offseason. Hopefully he'll someday add the same explosion and talent on offense that he tried to add on D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southbeach 2 View Post
    No matter what you have thought in the past, no one is questioning what Irish has done this off season. The only question I see is if everything he has done is good or great.

    This will be up to Philbin & Co. to see what they will do with the acquired talent, and not on Ireland. IF they do well, he may well be the Exec Of The Year. IF not, he cannot be faulted.
    I think there are two different issues here. The first issue is whether the players Ireland drafted will make a contribution to the team or even make the team. The second issue is will Philbin get the most out of the players that actually make the team. A guy like D. Jordan could be a tremendous talent but if incorrectly used he could be a marginal player (coaches fault). Jordan could also end up nothing more than hype and a bust type player (Ireland & those that supported drafting him over better talented players). On paper it would appear Ireland stepped up to the plate and did his job. The next chapter will be to see how many of these players will make the team and how much will they contribute to its overall success. How it all plays out remains to be seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z926538 View Post
    And if you think honestly about it, getting Wallace only returns us to where we were two years ago when we had Brandon Marshall.
    UHHH only getting Wallace is not what they did . They totaly upgraded the offence and you think the only thing they added was Wallace ?
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    No Wallace was one piece of the puzzle that everybody was screaming for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z926538 View Post
    So if these guys all turn out to be the second coming of Egnew it's Philbin's fault??? Give me a break. Philbin has proven over time that he can coach. Ireland has yet to prove that he can be a competent GM.
    Why the hate? Ireland did well this off season. Give credit when credit is due. We all trashed him the last few years, this year he did the best he can.
    You can't have it both ways.
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