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Thread: Michele Bachmann, Jeb Bush Clash On Immigration

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    Michele Bachmann, Jeb Bush Clash On Immigration

    Two Republican Party stars clashed at a conservative conference Friday during a discussion of immigration reform, illustrating the party's divide on the major issue currently moving through Congress.
    Speaking at the Faith and Freedom Conference, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) warned against the legislation, while former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) -- who is widely rumored to be seeking the 2016 Republican presidential nomination -- made a case for reform that referenced the fertility of immigrants.
    "We are looking at the legalization of over 30 million illegal aliens," Bachmann said. "This is not an anti-immigrant speech. Do not walk away with that thought at all."
    She went on to offer another warning about immigration, while clarifying that she was not trying to offend anyone. "The estimate is that the average illegal alien that comes into the United States -- the average age is 34 years old. The average education level is about the 10th grade," she said. "That's not to demean anyone who comes into the United States with a lack of education."
    Many undocumented immigrants come to the U.S. and work in low-skilled jobs that don't require an education. Others, such as those brought to the country as children, often go on to attend college like their peers (this group would be able to apply for citizenship under the proposed "gang of eight" bill in the Senate).

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    Dear god, if the Republicans put up Jeb Bush I'll be convinced that they've learned absolutely nothing. No Bush is getting elected again anytime soon, regardless of their merits, positions on anything, etc. The name carries too much negative connotation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    Dear god, if the Republicans put up Jeb Bush I'll be convinced that they've learned absolutely nothing. No Bush is getting elected again anytime soon, regardless of their merits, positions on anything, etc. The name carries too much negative connotation...
    I realize you live in a pretty liberal world so everybody you know probably hates the bush's. but George w approval rating is 49%. His fathers approval rating was almost 60% at the end of his presidency and he continues to be very popular. Compare that to Hillary (which I'm sure people in your world love), her ratings are in the high 50's.

    For the record, I'm done with the bush's and Clinton's, IMO they played a role in the partisan, divisive political model we have today.

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    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ntons-numbers/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/theova...tings/2414365/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    Dear god, if the Republicans put up Jeb Bush I'll be convinced that they've learned absolutely nothing. No Bush is getting elected again anytime soon, regardless of their merits, positions on anything, etc. The name carries too much negative connotation...
    Hey..good news..GWB's legacy approval rating are going up in some polls...
    Jeb Bush was actually a very good Governor in Florida. If he chooses to run in the primaries, he will not be judged by his own record or personal accomplishments in the national media and spot light, but by his father and brother as you alluded to. It would be a shame that he doesn't get a fair shot. His wife has Hispanic heritage, and he can speak fluent Spanish. Of all the Bush's, he is by far more moderate. I would not count him out, but as you pointed out, he is a long shot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumpus View Post
    Far be it from me to ever agree with a Bush - But, if Bachmann is the alternative ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jared81 View Post
    I realize you live in a pretty liberal world so everybody you know probably hates the bush's. but George w approval rating is 49%. His fathers approval rating was almost 60% at the end of his presidency and he continues to be very popular. Compare that to Hillary (which I'm sure people in your world love), her ratings are in the high 50's.

    For the record, I'm done with the bush's and Clinton's, IMO they played a role in the partisan, divisive political model we have today.

    http://webapps.ropercenter.uconn.edu...)#.UbviWsu9KSM

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ntons-numbers/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/theova...tings/2414365/
    Spoken like a true political hack Mr Libertarian.

    That you are a Bushy we all know. Comparing a former President with a former Secretary of State is desperation at best. Former Presidents usually get a little bump in the polls because most people have forgotten about the Presidency. You may want to look at Bush's in-office poll numbers not almost 5 years later.

    You might be done with the Clinton's (though only one was President) but you never be done with the Bush's. If Jeb Bush would run you are the first one to jump on his band wagon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jared81 View Post
    I realize you live in a pretty liberal world so everybody you know probably hates the bush's. but George w approval rating is 49%. His fathers approval rating was almost 60% at the end of his presidency and he continues to be very popular. Compare that to Hillary (which I'm sure people in your world love), her ratings are in the high 50's.

    For the record, I'm done with the bush's and Clinton's, IMO they played a role in the partisan, divisive political model we have today.

    http://webapps.ropercenter.uconn.edu...)#.UbviWsu9KSM

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ntons-numbers/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/theova...tings/2414365/

    The only approval number that matters is the one they had right as they were leaving the office. It's human nature to feel better about people as time passes. As soon as a Bush is back in the spot light, all those GWB $%^& ups will be brought up and his approval numbers will sink back down. I know this is anecdotal but my parents have voted Republican in every Presidential election since they were 18, and when I mention Jeb they just laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackFinfan View Post
    The only approval number that matters is the one they had right as they were leaving the office. It's human nature to feel better about people as time passes. As soon as a Bush is back in the spot light, all those GWB $%^& ups will be brought up and his approval numbers will sink back down. I know this is anecdotal but my parents have voted Republican in every Presidential election since they were 18, and when I mention Jeb they just laugh.
    Your parents? What state do they live in? Jeb is the most popular governor in Florida in the past generation. Let me ask you this, if Hilary doesn't run than Biden stands a good chance to get the nomination. Do you really think Biden will win in Florida where Jeb is hugely popular? There are only 3 or 4 major states (fl, oh, va, co) the rest don't matter.

    says who? Oh and I guess you didn't look at my links, George sr was at almost 60% approval when he left office. What's your excuse now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phins_4_ever View Post
    Spoken like a true political hack Mr Libertarian.

    That you are a Bushy we all know. Comparing a former President with a former Secretary of State is desperation at best. Former Presidents usually get a little bump in the polls because most people have forgotten about the Presidency. You may want to look at Bush's in-office poll numbers not almost 5 years later.

    You might be done with the Clinton's (though only one was President) but you never be done with the Bush's. If Jeb Bush would run you are the first one to jump on his band wagon.
    So I'm a bushey because I present the other side of an argument? My initial response was to Locke (not you), who lives in a liberal world and only sources liberal websites. The only polling numbers I have on Hillary are from her time as S of S, how am I supposed to judge her than. Whether you are intelligent to realize it or not, job would win Florida against any candidate.

    I don't think Jeb should run or wants to run, but he would be a formidable candidate that only an immature person can't see. And yes, it Jeb runs I would vote for him over the closet lesbo Hillary or the borderline retard Biden.

    Also, I know how much in love you are with Obama, you must love George W too then, because they are identical.
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